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Mazda Protege, Sedan
#71 of 110 Why are there not more Pro's on the road?
Dec 12, 2002 (1:38 pm)
One reason: too many buyers do insufficient research. For research: see Honorable Mention, under Most Wanted Sedans under $15K, in the edmunds "Editors Most Wanted Vehicles for 2003". (Some drivers like a tight/flat handling suspension.) Oh yes, and thousands of owners say they're reliable too.
#72 of 110 Why are there not more Pro's on the road?
Dec 12, 2002 (3:47 pm)
Very simple--Mazda has an almost non-existant marketing program outside of dealer incentives and financing. How many times have you seen a Mazda Protege commercial on TV?
Honda, Toyota and Nissan have a huge marketing arm as well as incentives. VW, Hyundai and Kia also market their protects a lot better than Mazda. The new Mazda 6 is Mazda's main marketing project at this time. The car is being advertised in Car & Driver and other automobile publications.
To answer your question, the buying public knows little about the Mazda Protege. Consumer Reports two years ago did more for the Mazda Protege than Mazda's marketing department when they named it the #1 vehicle in its class. Unfortunately, this is not the case now.
Dec 12, 2002 (3:51 pm)
As we know, the herd mentality might be one reason for it. Hey, I'll admit it, I was part of it too, but took a chance on this car (after extensive reasearch) and I'm a convinced Mazda freak now.
Dec 12, 2002 (5:17 pm)
I have no personal experience with the Protege but two of my friends are very happy with theirs after about 4 years. Funny thing is both started out to buy a Civic and got put off by the attitude displayed by the Honda salesperson.
#75 of 110 Black tulip
Dec 12, 2002 (5:35 pm)
"Funny thing is both started out to buy a Civic and got put off by the attitude displayed by the Honda salesperson"
That and 8.6% financing did it for me.
#76 of 110 Black Tulip
Dec 13, 2002 (6:32 am)
Amen! That is exactly what happened to me when I purchased my 2001 ES 5 Speed, AND when we went looking for a replacement car for my wife. We are going to get her a Protege5 very soon. A large proportion of Honda dealers think you owe them something.
Dec 13, 2002 (7:34 am)
Most people don't realize exactly how fun the Protege is until after they own one. At least, that's been my observation. They're wicked fun
As for reliability- listen to Zues! The Protege owners on this board will testify to it's great reliability- many with 100k+ miles. And if you don't listen to them, remember the the Civic is only rated "average" in Consumer Reports. Take that!
Really, it's hard to compare reliability when with proper routine maintenance, any of these three cars will reach 200k+ miles. My 1990 Celica (~Corolla) has over 120k and still looks and runs like a new(ish) car. I almost bought a Protege, but am getting an Mazda6 now.
#78 of 110 200,000 miles
Dec 13, 2002 (9:56 am)
My friend's wife has a 323 with 220,000 miles on it that she still drives every day. Mountainous Montana miles too. Not shabby.
#79 of 110 323=Protege?
Dec 13, 2002 (10:22 am)
I don't think so! The 323 was virtually bullet proof.
Dec 13, 2002 (10:31 am)
The Protege is the succesor to the 323. In some markets, they still call it the "323". In NA, they are different cars because one is newer, and one is older. We know the older 323 is bulletproof because it has been around long enough to prove itself. Time will tell with the newer designs, but if history means anything, the newer ones should be even more reliable.