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Dodge Magnum, Dodge Magnum SRT-8, Wagon
#414 of 1963 Re: Hmmm...Dissillusioned with Dodge already [bhh #411]
Jul 07, 2004 (10:23 am)
I'm not trying to start a war, but I just to clarify a few points on my post.
1. I was not comparing the Forester to a Magnum. Andrea was looking for ideas for vehicles, including one larger and more expensive vehicle and one smaller one. Reading what she was looking for, I thought a Legacy / Outback or a Forester might be good choices for her.
2. My statement was that the Outback / Legacy did not have much more interior room than a Forester, even though the Outback Legacy is a larger vehicle. I concede that the Magnum has more space, particularly in regards to passenger space. The advantage in cargo room for the Magnum is reduced due to the slope of the roof. Sorry if my wording was vague.
3. 2004 Turbo Forester with the 5 speed is rated at 18/23, auto is rated at 19/23. Hemi Magnum is rated at 17/24, which is pretty darn good for a V8, but is a draw economy wise. My understanding is that the 2005 Outback Legacy is actually rated slightly higher, and the 2005 Forester has been revised slightly upward. My guess is the Hemi Magnum with AWD will be a little lower.
The Forester and Outbacks are top rated in safety. Like I said, I am not trying to start a war as I like Subarus and I like the 300C and Magnum. They are all excellent cars that will appeal to different folks for different reasons. I was just trying to respond to the post (#403) from Andrea.
#415 of 1963 Re: Stereo [rusty104 #413]
Jul 07, 2004 (10:30 am)
The basic sound system is terrific with easy controls and great bass, midrange and high sound, tight and not boomy. You can fade the sound very effectively to the rear of the vehicle if you desire a softer sound or for rear passengers.
#416 of 1963 NJ Invoice and Costco
Jul 07, 2004 (3:45 pm)
Went to the Dodge Dealer the other day, they will give me $800 over invoice price for the RT. Said they can't give me an actual price yet because they don't have any invoices yet, and I have to wait till my Black or Red comes in before any pricing is definate. Any other dealer in NJ will do better?
#417 of 1963 Never seen an Magnum RT
Jul 07, 2004 (7:09 pm)
Hello all! I have yet to see a Magnum RT. I check the 5 dealers around me all the time and they only ever have SXT's. I have a 2001 300M that I love very much, but when these Hemi cars started coming out....boy I feel a need for more HP. My 300M has been the most reliable car I've ever owned. IN fact, I've had several Japanese cars that weren't as reliable. I think that says a lot about DC and how far they've come.
I first considered the 300C, but I think I like the Magnum looks more. In fact, my wife likes the Magnum better. I'm probably going to wait for the 'new' effect to wear off so I can get one at a decent price, but again I have yet to lay eyes on an R/T. I've seen the 300C's with Hemis, but no Magnums. I guess people are ordering all the available ones, so the dealers have none in stock.
My 300M has been great, but never a good green light stomper. Even with the aftermarket enhancements I've made to it, it's never been fast enough for my taste. That's why I really want to test drive the Hemi. I think the 340 HP may be enough, but I've also considered waiting for the SRT-8 that's due out next year. Possibly labeled the new Charger?? It now stands to put out 426HP with the help of a Whipple Supercharger. Now THAT's some serious HP. Enough to beat most Corvette's, but maybe not the Z06. Anyways, if ever get to test drive an R/T I'll let everyone know.
#418 of 1963 Rental Cars
Jul 08, 2004 (6:14 am)
In Atlanta, my guess is that I have seen at least 20 or 30 300s and about half a dozen Magnums. All appear to have been low or midlevel trim (no 300c or RT versions). From those I could specifically identify through licenses, bar codes or other stickers, it appears a very high percentage are rental cars. Even though Atlanta is not a tourist destination, with the big airport, business travelers and conventions it is a big rental car market.
I hope DC is not making a mistake by putting too many Magnums and 300s in fleet sales. I'm afraid they are shooting themselves in the foot, cheapening the brand that they are trying to build up. I also do not understand why they are doing this because I cannot believe they are making much money (profit) on fleet sales. IMHO, they should have kept building Chrysler Concordes and Dodge Intrepids for fleet sales at least for a couple of years, letting the Magnum and 300 be more exclusive. I'm also afraid all the fleet sales will hurt depreciation. It is a shame because I think both cars represent excellent new product.
#419 of 1963 Re: Rental Cars [atlgaxt #418]
Jul 08, 2004 (6:33 am)
Dodge/Chrysler and GM has made it clear their goal is to sell as many vehicles as possible. This has always been their goal as was Fords, and is partially why they have abyssmal resale value. Not much you can do about it. Ford has recently announced intentions to roll-back their volume and produce a higher priced higher quality product. It will be interesting to see how this works, as the main problem with all three "domestic" brands is capacity. It's hard to sell lower volume at higher prices when you have all this capacity sitting around. So a little off topic, but to answer your question yes the Magnum and 300 are going to be heavily pushed to the fleets and likely will have typical crappy domestic resale. The 300C and Magnum RT will likely be the exception as their price levels are too high for heavy fleet sales. I highly doubt their resale will be substantially better though, possibly a couple percent at best.
#420 of 1963 Re: Rental Cars [atlgaxt #418]
Jul 08, 2004 (5:12 pm)
demand for the new LX cars is so high that not many will be going to rental fleets for the next year or so. what you are prolly seeing is the initial batch build for rental fleets to help shakeout problems...
#421 of 1963 Re: Hmmm...Dissillusioned with Dodge already [andrea #403]
Jul 08, 2004 (6:18 pm)
I have had a Base Model Dodge Magnum for about a month now and I love the car. I'm not even talking about an RT. This is a company lease vehical with a 2.7L V6. I was a little worried that the 2.7L would be under-powered. Not at all. It's obviously not going out on a race track (although there are days it feels like it), but it has more than enough power (200hp) to get down the road and pass when needed. I am 6'4" and I am very comfortable in the front seat. I have a son who is 5'10" 230lbs and he sits comfortably in the back, even behind my seat. The ride is very smooth and very quiet. Dodge really paid attention to the small details in this vehical. I am very impressed with the car. Dodge definitely has a winner. Oh... and I can't go anywhere without someone stopping to tell me just how cool the car looks.
Jul 09, 2004 (11:18 pm)
I am trying to see some pictures of the magnum.
people out there is there any good sites that you could recomend.
greetings from Virginia