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#41 of 1877 true or false? by stormdavy Apr 27, 2003 (8:23 am)
Recent article on FWD vs. RWD by Mickey Kaus in Slate magazine's "gearbox" column claims new Maxima exhibiting extreme torque steer problems (http://www.slate.msn.com/id/2081194).
#42 of 1877 torque steer by ruski Apr 27, 2003 (4:34 pm)
first this dude has a chip on his shoulder against torque steer (that's why he wrote the article)   also he did not experience Maxima's torque steer for himself. He writes "otherwise appealing new front-drive Maxima is said to be plagued by big-time, uninhibited torque steer" -- that's what he heard.
#43 of 1877 by fsv Apr 27, 2003 (7:13 pm)
It is better to have torque steer than not - it means, your car has some ponies... And then, how the sliding oud rear end is better than torque steer? Just asking. And, guys, let's have conversation based on experience - what's the point of repeating stories read somewhere?
#44 of 1877 Good discussion..... by Jason5 May 05, 2003 (4:46 am)
As a regular member of the Intrepid board--I've enjoyed reading the discussion here. I'm reasonably close to NYC, so took in the Auto Show two weeks ago. I'll confess that I viewed the sketches of the upcoming LH replacements with concern at (dearly departed?) car-truck.com. Truth is the Magnum and 300N look much better in person. Guess I'm wondering what the actual Intrepid replacement will look like--as I assume the Magnum is the "wagon/SUV" version of the Intrepid. Perhaps envisioning the 300N "back" on the Magnum's "front" will be close.      I'm an unapologetic lover of cab-forward and still am. The first gen Intrepid is aging well--let alone the second gen which I own. I bought the car for affordability, SPACE, handling, aesthetics and (yes) front wheel drive. I hope the majority of these attributes aren't lost in the translation..
#45 of 1877 2 Jason by fsv May 05, 2003 (6:47 am)
I hope that you love Intrepids tranny too...
#46 of 1877 Re Tranny's and other urban myths... by Jason5 May 05, 2003 (11:05 am)
As a matter of fact I DO enjoy the autostick in my Intrepid. I just wish it were a 5 speed instead.. I also assume you're referencing the supposed "transmission" issue that befalls Chrysler products but is largely an "urban myth"....
#47 of 1877 by fsv May 05, 2003 (11:24 am)
Ha-ha!!! This "myth" is waiting to come upon you... I owned '95 Intrepid, and a friend of mine - 96, similar mileage; same things were happening to me and him within a week or so; after spending $8G's in repairs in 2 years, I realized, that my interaction with the car was like chess - were white figures start - and win; Intrepid had white figures. So, I donated it, and friend of mine sold his car to some unlucky bastard. My phlegmatic ex-boss was spreading sparks, when talking about her Intrepid - she's got her car REPLACED, so many time it was in the shop while still on warranty. BTW, is A/C still alive? What about intake manifold? Differentials? Starter? Alternator? Fuel leak from fuel injector rails? All that happened to me, and might sound very familiar to you - unless your car is very young. Also, check out Intrepid chat - there WILL be some info on a/m problems. Just search the discussion for "bad tranny" or similar... But again, just wait - I drove the car, btw, for 2 years without a problem, and then - avalanche...
#48 of 1877 Jason by indydriver May 05, 2003 (4:10 pm)
Interesting speculation about the LX Intrepid. I agree with you that the current Intrepid is one of the finest looking four door sedans ever built. It is certainly the most handsome DC product on the street. I have always been puzzled that it did not sell better. The 300M board is in an uproar over the departure in styling with the 300C (although I personally think it handsome in its own right). Obviously, the LX -I has to be as radically different as the C is from the M. It will be interesting to see if Intrepid owners feel "betrayed" the way many M owners claim to be. For me, I simply want to own a powerful V-8 sedan before they're outlawed. I want comfort and luxury for four adults (sorry, kids), with room for luggage and golf clubs and a ballsy, torquey, 350 ft/lbs++ V-8 that "gets rubber" anytime you put your foot down. Oh yeah, it also has the suspension and tires to corner like a sports car, with handling so neutral it slides all four wheels at the same time with easily induced throttle oversteer. Nostalgia? That's my version.
#49 of 1877 by fsv May 05, 2003 (6:51 pm)
the new 300 is OK, but, what will the pricing be? If same as for current Intrepid, many will be tempted, but somehow I suspect, they are growing Lincoln LS competition - so, fully loaded it will be in 40th - my LS wa 42G's BTW, fully loaded. A real nice car, btw, pretty much one thing that drove me crazy, was lack of glove compartment (CD changer was there) and door pockets were real small. There is no way, the new loaded 300 will be under 40G's - but if it will, 300 will compete with Mercedes products. Also, it looks like the new hybrid or what ever engines will be real powerfull real soon - may be departure of Internal Combustion Engine will not be such a tragedy after all.
#50 of 1877 More on Tranny "fiction"... by Jason5 May 06, 2003 (11:40 am)
My 2000 ES will turn "4" in November, has 59K miles and no transmission problems. In my immediate family with have two first gen Intrepids--a 1993 ES with over 100K and NO transmission problems and my mother's 1994 ES with just 45K and, likewise, no transmission problems. In fact, both first gen. Intrepids have had NO significant problems beyond recalls to the fuel rails on the 3.5 and normal maintenance.     Again...once we get past the URBAN MYTH of tranny problems--and beyond the subtle "fibs" told by Consumer Reports--who now have begrudgingly put the Intrepid on their "Recommended" list--we find both the first and second genrations Intrepids faring EXTREMELY well on MSN's used car reports.. A report, incidentally, which is much more balanced than CR's. Seems every few months, someone on these boards has to be educated about this...

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