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#109 of 1963 From a good source...
Jul 29, 2003 (12:48 pm)
"Tentative Launch Dates (JOB 1)
Chrysler Sedan 300's
Monday Feb. 2nd 2004
Friday April 2nd 2004
Dodge Sedan (Charger?)
April 4th 2005
There is a 30 to 45 day containment window on top of these dates
just to make sure everything is O.K."
Note that the Dodge sedan is not coming out till 4/05, presumably as an '06 model. Considering that the Dodge Intrepid goes out of production 8/03, that's a loooong time for Dodge dealers to wait for a new shipment of sedans!
Jul 30, 2003 (6:15 am)
with all the inventory sitting on all new car lots now, I wouldn't be worried for DC - good if they'll seel most of them to the time 300 shows up.
BTW, some update from http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6249&sid=178&am- p;n=158 - see the 300 on the way there.
They say, engine choice will start from 3.5L V6. The car looks like some old model Mercedes.
I start looking more and more on Q45 - at least it's not generic and derivative.
#111 of 1963 2004 300M, Fair Trade-in Value?
Jul 31, 2003 (12:53 pm)
I currently have a Chrysler 2004, 300M with approximately 2200 miles on it. After having a 2002 that was a lemon, I traded out of the '02 for the '04. Nothing wrong with the car, just not happy with the entire process or service via Chrysler. Any ideas on a fair trade-in value for this vehicle that isn't even listed in the Blue Book yet? Thanks...
Aug 01, 2003 (6:02 am)
You should have leased the car - Chrysler ownership could be disasteros (former Intrepid owner). Theoretically you shouldn't loose too much, but with the car prices now you could be in a tight spot. Dealers, to the best of my knowledge, don't go with KBB, I saw them using NADA, but Honda guys, for example, have their own book. You'll be better off visiting some dealership and try to talk them into looking in one of their little books...
#113 of 1963 Better radio?
Aug 01, 2003 (7:44 am)
The Edmund's reviews of Chrysler radios have not been good. Does anyone know if they are being upgraded for the new models?
Aug 01, 2003 (9:28 am)
I didn't have problem with mine - was the only thing which didn't break on the car.
#115 of 1963 Chrysler radios
Aug 01, 2003 (2:54 pm)
While I haven't read all of Edmunds' reviews, I believe that they usually dislike only Chrysler's head units and find the sound quality to be pretty good. It actually annoys me how Edmunds reviewers find it necessary, in each and every Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep review, to complain about the complexity of using the presets on Chrysler's radios. Sure, theirs might be different than other manufacturers' systems, but does this make the Chrysler preset system bad? It seems pretty simple and logical to me.
#116 of 1963 Svevar...
Aug 03, 2003 (8:25 am)
You needn't be too surprised by this... Edmunds.com is no less free from bias--warranted or otherwise--than any other group. They seem to have some sort of axe to grind with Chrysler. The Intrepid test was replete with this. Just as you'll see dubious claims from posters in these boards.
Aug 05, 2003 (9:33 am)
I also noticed strong anti-Chrysler bias in Edmunds' long-term Grand Caravan review. While it's arguable that Honda's Odyssey is a better van, most other automotive writers agree that Chrysler's is pretty damn good, too. But Edmunds could never stop talking about how expensive the Grand Caravan was, and they dwelled on the van's weaknesses while just briefly mentioning its strong points. And if I hear one more time about how "counter-intuitive" the preset system is...
Getting back to rusty104's radio post, there is an article in the September issue of Car and Driver in which Patrick Bedard ponders the industry's move from traditional fender-mounted, mast-style radio antennae to more aesthetically pleasing, in-glass systems. The article states that with the in-glass systems, car-makers must make a trade-off between sound quality and weak-station performance. GM tends to handle weak stations well, whereas Chrysler and BMW concern themselves with sound quality under optimal radio signal conditions. This explains the common complaint among Chrysler owners on Edmunds that their radio reception is sometimes poor.
#118 of 1963 Svevar..
Aug 06, 2003 (6:24 am)
Good observations... Again, Edmunds isn't the only industry media that seems to do this, witness Consumer Reports, etc.etc... It's surprising too how blatantly it manifests. My favorites are the minivan "kvetching" you mentioned and harping on the Intrepid's styling (a.k.a. the "squished whale" fallacy). The Intrepid and the Concorde were routinely honored for their styling when they debuted in late 1997/early 1998. C & D, Motor Trend, Autoweek etc. all raved about it and continue to mention how well it "stands up" 5 years later.
So, low and behold, when Edmunds can't find so much to complain about in the long-term test suddenly the "squished whale" styling issue emerges. You can almost hear the gears turning..."well damn it didn't fall apart like we had hoped, and the transmission didn't break like they do on ALL Chryslers (wink). In fact it had some of the lowest maintenance cost of any long-termer....what CAN we pick on???"
I rarely listen to my radio, using my 4 disk CD changer instead. When I have I don't have any qualms about reception in my Trep'--however, I do notice an occasional harmonic buzz in my speakers..