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Replying to: 2009h (Oct 27, 2009 6:41 pm) 
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Is $25,450 a good quote for a 10' crv ex-l 4x4 without navigation?
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Replying to: 2009h (Oct 28, 2009 4:56 pm) Next, I'd like to know where you got that quote. I'll buy today if it's anywhere close. |
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Am looking for dealer invoice for 2010 CRV EX - 2WD in Texas ? Any one has a quote from dealer ? Should i wait till dec end to buy car which can help to get dicount from dealer ? |
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I am an Internet Sales Manager at a dealership here in Texas and would like to add a few notes to this forum to help in the purchasing process of any new vehicle. The most important aspect of car-buying is research, as it will make your experience faster and much more pleasant as negotiation ONLY benefits the buyer. It does no good to "Lowball" an offer to start at a price that is not at all possible, a $30000 vehicle can very rarely be bought for $20000 so why offer, you have started to sour the relationship with the sales person and hurt your position. Also, who would want that vehicle? The most enjoyable sales situation is when a well-prepared customer makes a legitimate offer that includes some REAL profit to the dealer and provides a great price for a vehicle. Small town dealers, who sometimes provide hundreds of jobs across the country are fading away because they can't compete with the internet pricing of big city dealers resulting in the loss of very valuable jobs and convenient service. So, let's not get greedy and help support these hardworking people instead of beating them up for $200 or $300. The days of huge profit margins are gone and will never return. Dealerships are at fault for gouging customers for years but if we as customers try to use those same tactics, where is the gain? The next important aspect of car buying is to take care of your credit, especially in this day of the tightening of credit by the lending institutions. I don't know how many times that I have heard the "My cousin got 0% when he bought his" from someone who has terrible credit. All the tips about knowing where you stand, good or bad, on your credit situation are very valid and can save you more than a few hundred dollars that you negotiate on the price of a car. You cannot expect the dealer to pay the sometimes outrageous bank fees that are required and make NO profit on a vehicle. The thing that I personally strive for is to make the car buying experience fun again and not the next best thing to going to the dentist. Some of the notes and comments in this forum are very counterproductive. "Bragging" about the deal that you got in your dreams help noone. Be realistic!!! 
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Just got my new Honda CRV 2010, EX 4WD home. Thank you everybody who shared their experience and price quote. It helped me to make an informed decision. Cost of car : 23,900 + TTL (Detroit Area, MI) Hope i got a good deal (End of month transcation) ... any comments/suggestions  I agree with Fasttex, there is no point bragging or trying to beat dealer. Running around to save 200-300 $. We need them as much as they need us. they save us time and mental agony of finding the right car. They have expenses and family too. We understand Fasttex. Some (Many) brought this bad name by their own actions  . I dreaded going into dealership and meeting sales guys. but in this dealership, ("Field of the South", if you know what i mean  I had a pleasant experience in this purchase transcation. Good friendly internet salesman & F&I guy. thank you guys, if you are reading this. I knew my final amount and went in with the right amount to pay. while i was there, another gentleman was purchasing 2010 Honda CRV LX, 4WD for Cost 21,850 + TTL ( In case any one wanted to know.  )
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Replying to: fasttex (Oct 29, 2009 9:37 am) you have demonstrated that you are a car seller and in a 'priest' way asked us (car buyers) to be gentle with you dealerships? You mention that "Dealerships are at fault for gouging customers for years " that means you were a part of it till now, now the market has gone to dogs and no one is buying your cars, so you ask this saint like question "but if we as customers try to use those same tactics, where is the gain?" Have you ever done that to anyone in "those" days??? You guys ruthlessly stripped every customer that walked into your dealerships in the name of profits, now its time to pay back. You cannot expect the dealer to pay the sometimes outrageous bank fees that are required and make NO profit on a vehicle. Dont you remember asking your customers such 'outrageous" fees in the name of market adjustment or any other fancy terms?? Do you know how many people lost jobs and not able to make those 'outrageous' payments ??? I think buyers should utilize this life time opportunity to strip these dealers from their ever profitting business. I think if we take one car out of the dealer's lot, that itself is a big favor to him or else he has to pay the bank interest etc... after the hold-back (90 days) time. Lastly, guys ... no discussion or comments in this forum is "counter-productive" dont believe this fasttex guy. He is a salesman not a buyer. If it is $200 or $20, why should be waste it to those blood sucking dealers???? |
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Sachin24k, I have been in the business for a very short time so I have never experienced the busines practices of the past but I have to deal with the repurcussions every day. It makes it very difficult to get ANY trust from potential buyers even though I NEVER gouged ANYONE. I abhor "Market Adjustments" or any other tactic to get more money from the customer but we live in a free market economy that has advantages and disadvantages for all of us. The Communist countries would fix prices on all vehicles but I doubt any American would wait for two years to get his Lada for a minute savings. The car business MUST change for it to survive and I would like to be a part of that change but there is no better way to change than what is happening here in these forums or other sites. There is no other business that has so much animosity and it cannot continue if the survival of the industry is important. I don't know what the solution is, but I do know that an atmosphere of name-calling and accusations benefits noone. Small town dealerships MUST survive or there will be none left to have a convenient place to service your car. I would guess you are from a larger city where the cutthroat competetion and practices have grown out of control in the last few years. My point about bank fees is very consumer-oriented and should be addressed by both the consumers and the dealerships as NO dealer makes money when a lending institution charges up to $2000 to the CUSTOMER to do the loan.
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Replying to: fasttex (Oct 29, 2009 3:04 pm) You sound like "is wal-mart" good or bad for america" .... it is what it is ....whether we like it or not. I apologize if I have hurt you, it was nothing personal. |
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Replying to: sachin24k (Oct 29, 2009 2:05 pm)
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