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#9106 of 13098 1st time car buyer - help would be great!
Sep 16, 2009 (8:59 am)
My wife and I are relocating to the western ny region and need a car for the first time (city folk!). We are pretty much sold on the CR-V and need to buy as soon as we move (next week!) so we cant wait for the '10s.
Some info - looking for an 09 or used 07, 08
would like the EX trim awd, no leather needed.
So - I was looking at this used '08 with a retail value of 23,995 - http://ps.getauto.com/group/details/91/6495/JHLRE48528C001115/
So i compared that pirce on kbb and they have a retail of 25,700 - http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2008&VehicleClass=Used- Car&ManufacturerId=18&Condition=Excellent&ModelId=126&PriceType=Retail&VehicleId- =197276&Mileage=25000&SelectionHistory=197276|31416|14224|0|0|
Edmunda has a retail of 21,102 - http://www.edmunds.com/used/2008/honda/crv/100933618/options.html?tmvaction=vdpr- esult
how is kbb and edmunds so different? and why would the dealer be selling at 23,995 when truecar says a good deal can be had on a NEW 09 for 24,000 - http://truecar.com/Honda/CR-V/2009/best-price-report-3FA694E8.html?colorInfo=Roy- al%20Blue%20Pearl,Black,25405,0,2009%20Honda,CR-V,4WD%205dr%20EX,2009_Honda_CR-V- _Royal_Blue_Pearl.jpg&trimId=308102&modelId=18842&zipcode=14224 ?
Thanks for reading and helping out!
#9107 of 13098 Someone asked to be kept informed...........
Sep 16, 2009 (3:12 pm)
.........of my shopping. Well, I bought a CPO 4Runner today. It's an '06 but has only 18,000 miles on it. Except for a scratch about 6 inches long on the side of the rear bumper, and the fact that the tires are half worn, it's as new.
Pricing was very similar to an new CRV, EX L, asking 28K, internet "special" price 27K, offered them 25K, they countered at 25.8 and it was a done deal.
Warranty is 7 yrs/100,000 miles since new on the powertrain. Roadside assistance, free loaner car and all that.
To me, it is everything that the CRV is not, heavy, solid, built to last 15 yrs. or so, and very, very safe (save your safety ratings rant). It is a true 4 x 4. I can drive it through any snow or on the beach, and it is comfortable for long trips.
#9108 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [chuckfromli]
Sep 17, 2009 (6:51 am)
Congrats on your purchase! Sounds like you got a good deal, especially with only 18k miles. Enjoy your new ride!
#9109 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [netak1]
Sep 17, 2009 (3:32 pm)
Thanks netak1 !
I haven't picked it up yet, and I am having second thoughts about the wisdom of buying a used car, even a low mileage CPO one, when I could get a new CRV for the same price. The bumper t bumper warranty on the Toyota is only 3 mos./3000 miles, even though the drivetain is 7 yrs/100K since new.
I keep going back and forth in my mind on the wisdom of new vs used and small crossover vs mid sized SUV (safety, comfort, size for the sake of size!).
Any thoughts on these matters?
#9110 of 13098 Is this a good price? CR-V LX 4WD
Sep 17, 2009 (4:24 pm)
out the door in california
this seems a bit high for me. what do yo guys think? i want to buy this by the end of this month. Thanks all!
#9111 of 13098 Re: Is this a good price? CR-V LX 4WD [jimle]
Sep 17, 2009 (4:44 pm)
I would just go by Edmunds TMV. I have found this to be very accurate and I have been shopping EX Ls in NY. If it's within a hundred or two of Edmunds, you like the salesperson, the dealership is convenient, then just go for it.
There is also another website, TrueCar I think it is, that shows recent prices paid.
#9112 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [chuckfromli]
Sep 18, 2009 (12:37 am)
I downsized from 3.5L Pilot to 2.5L Outback, save gas and money plus I don't really need a SUV with 8 seater. It is friendlier to the environment.
I think the best deal for the buck is buying a used 3 yr old, <50k mi, just off the lease. The new Outback, same trim : new $28k vs 3 yr old w/30k mi. $18k ... $10k saving.
#9113 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [bigdadi118]
Sep 18, 2009 (4:22 am)
Thanks bigdadi118. Makes a lot of sense financially.
There is a good, safe feeling to be in a mid sized to large SUV though. If everyone else was driving a small crossover type vehicle, it wouldn't be a big deal. But when so many cars on the road are full sized SUVs, and people are running red lights and talking on the phone, it's a little disconcerting to me to be sitting a foot or two lower than them and driving something a thousand pounds lighter!
#9114 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [chuckfromli]
Sep 18, 2009 (5:04 am)
I agreed with you, nothing is safe out there! This make me think over and over between the new CR-V and the used mid size SUV too.
#9115 of 13098 Re: Someone asked to be kept informed........... [chuckfromli]
Sep 18, 2009 (8:20 am)
As a fellow LIer, I know what you're up against on the roads (although I ride to work on a 120-passenger LIRR M-7). I'd say that the CR-V's superior handling makes up for the 4Runner's weight advantage. The CR-V also gets better mileage & would likely be more comfortable.
At the same time, buying used is actually less risky than buying new from a purely financial perspective. If you go with the 4Runner & then decide 2 years from now that it's just too big for your needs, you won't lose as much money as you would if you bought a new CR-V today & then traded out of it in 2011. The nice thing about buying used is that the original owner takes much of the depreciation hit so that you don't feel as much pain. And unless the 1st owner of the 4Runner abused it, you probably won't have any significant problems with it. A lightly used Toyota truck has to be one of the lowest-risk buys out there.