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243 messages, Last post on Aug 11, 2003 at 7:24 PM
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Thought all of you might want to know that when my dealer called me yesterday to let me know that my car was "ready", I started asking a lot of questions. I want to thank you all for helping to educate me on what questions to really ask. He told me with certainty that the parts put into production cars all last year are the same as in mine (purchased in July '02), Until VW finally went to different part as of--get this--January 1, 2003. So, all of us who are driving a 1.8T have these defective parts. I asked if any of the cars with the new Ignition coils would have reached the US market yet, and he said there would be no way that they are here yet. So, my ignition coils that were replaced in October and November(twice!), that we were told were the new coils, were in fact not the new coils, because those did not come available until 1/1/03. So, until he told me this yesterday, I thought I was done with the coils problem, since 4 would have been replaced by now. Four have in fact been replaced, but three were replaced with faulty coils. UNBELIEVABLE. But, I guess it explains why my car had to sit for two weeks at the dealer to get the part. I t only took them about 17 seconds to install the damn thing, but they couldn't get thier hands on it for TWO weeks. Can't wait to see what the attorney specializing in lemon law has to say about it. And if not, I'd like to see what Carmax has to offer....Do I hear any offers? |
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at least we now know about the alleged repaired coils. wonder what the identification is on the good ones.... the ones that probably aren't on anybody's shelves yet. be nice of VW to run a recall when they are sorta sure these coils have insulation on them. |
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| I should have placed a disclaimer in front of my earlier post.....I couldn't diagnose a flat tire....don't ask me for help on anything technical....what I was saying about US gas additives was quoted to me by a VW Technical guy....in his words..(with a very Hans Gruber-like accent) your fuel (they don't call it gas) is corrupted...... | |
| Remind Herr Gruber who won the war, LOL | |
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Coils gone bad, Bad Reputation at the dealers, Squeaks, rattles, 'nuf said! No Thanks! |
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| yeah, well Hans has just passed the Euro to somebody else. Maybe this cold everyone's catching is also fuel related. | |
| good old Hans, puttering all day with a little screwdriver and an eye loupe at $175/hour trying to replace a taillight bulb for some trusting customer, needs to learn something about how high voltage works. if you can sink the current pulses, the system should not melt down if it was properly designed and built. and whether you are running fuel, gasoline, steam, or cowflops through the atomizer in the injector and into the cylinder, as long as the plug sinks that 40,000 volt spark, it won't echo back and forth in the coil windings and build up higher voltages from self-inductance to break down the insulation. | |
| If anyone reads this is considering buying any VW product, especially a Passat -- don't! I'm stuck with a new car that's been in twice in a month for defective coils. The Jetta loaner car the dealer gave me wouldn't even start the next day. I'm in the processing of filing a formal complaint with VW & the NYS Attorney General's office. Bottom line -- I have a new car that no one wants to drive. | |
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bottom line is that some supplier screwed up, VW didn't catch it for too long, and it took even longer to (supposedly) redo the coil line so they can make two in a row that ought to last. the customers are really getting dumped on, and the dealers are caught in the crossfire. if it was me, I'd find another source for coils somehow and slap (four to eight) of 'em in... or carry a couple spare so I could keep driving until repair parts come in and they could swap the stinkers. I have got to believe that the aftermarket supply houses... parts plus, CSK, napa... have got a supplier that knows about the VW debacle and got another company to make knockoffs that work. since VWoA and dealers can't get enough coils to keep the customers on the road, don't know why there isn't a permission letter to put in something else and extend warranty over it as well, just to get on top of the situation before it eats them alive. even if they do have good coils coming off the line now, it's going to take years to get all the dreck out of the sold vehicles... and in that time, everybody will be learning to spit and moan when anybody asks about VW. I would think there's a lot of pressure out there, and they just ought to certify some other sources and turn 'em loose on the problem. got a guy in the office who took two Passats to the dealer over the weekend for coil failure... one was his daughter's and they treated her like something foul on the rug, one was his wife's and they've had eight cars from this dealer with a good rep in the area... and because of the daughter's car, the wife has been reviling the dealer over the phone all day, whenever she gets another idea and some breath back. this can't be good. |
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