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I am seriously confused about the FUD being spread about how inferior US gasoline causes coil packs to fail. that sounds like "an answer for every question within 5 seconds, no matter what it is," not anything that can be secured with data. you can put steam in the cylinders instead of gas and it ain't gonna stress the coil packs. the computer tells 'em when to fire. if the spark plug sparks and sinks the current, which depends on the ignition wire set and the plugs being in good shape, the job is done. you can crank a dead engine until the starter melts down and it isn't going to hurt the coil packs that there is no explosion in the cylinders. I repeat, under the present laws of physics on the third planet from the sun, there is nothing in a fuel/air mix that is going to affect the ignition coil. the argument has the gestalt of science only if you look at it with your glasses off and through a hangover. |
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Thought all of you might want to know that when my dealer called me yesterday to let me know that my car was "ready", I started asking a lot of questions. I want to thank you all for helping to educate me on what questions to really ask. He told me with certainty that the parts put into production cars all last year are the same as in mine (purchased in July '02), Until VW finally went to different part as of--get this--January 1, 2003. So, all of us who are driving a 1.8T have these defective parts. I asked if any of the cars with the new Ignition coils would have reached the US market yet, and he said there would be no way that they are here yet. So, my ignition coils that were replaced in October and November(twice!), that we were told were the new coils, were in fact not the new coils, because those did not come available until 1/1/03. So, until he told me this yesterday, I thought I was done with the coils problem, since 4 would have been replaced by now. Four have in fact been replaced, but three were replaced with faulty coils. UNBELIEVABLE. But, I guess it explains why my car had to sit for two weeks at the dealer to get the part. I t only took them about 17 seconds to install the damn thing, but they couldn't get thier hands on it for TWO weeks. Can't wait to see what the attorney specializing in lemon law has to say about it. And if not, I'd like to see what Carmax has to offer....Do I hear any offers? |
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at least we now know about the alleged repaired coils. wonder what the identification is on the good ones.... the ones that probably aren't on anybody's shelves yet. be nice of VW to run a recall when they are sorta sure these coils have insulation on them. |
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| I should have placed a disclaimer in front of my earlier post.....I couldn't diagnose a flat tire....don't ask me for help on anything technical....what I was saying about US gas additives was quoted to me by a VW Technical guy....in his words..(with a very Hans Gruber-like accent) your fuel (they don't call it gas) is corrupted...... | |
| Remind Herr Gruber who won the war, LOL | |
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Coils gone bad, Bad Reputation at the dealers, Squeaks, rattles, 'nuf said! No Thanks! |
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| yeah, well Hans has just passed the Euro to somebody else. Maybe this cold everyone's catching is also fuel related. | |
| good old Hans, puttering all day with a little screwdriver and an eye loupe at $175/hour trying to replace a taillight bulb for some trusting customer, needs to learn something about how high voltage works. if you can sink the current pulses, the system should not melt down if it was properly designed and built. and whether you are running fuel, gasoline, steam, or cowflops through the atomizer in the injector and into the cylinder, as long as the plug sinks that 40,000 volt spark, it won't echo back and forth in the coil windings and build up higher voltages from self-inductance to break down the insulation. | |
| If anyone reads this is considering buying any VW product, especially a Passat -- don't! I'm stuck with a new car that's been in twice in a month for defective coils. The Jetta loaner car the dealer gave me wouldn't even start the next day. I'm in the processing of filing a formal complaint with VW & the NYS Attorney General's office. Bottom line -- I have a new car that no one wants to drive. | |
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