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Chevrolet Malibu Maxx, Hatchback
#3955 of 5257 Re: SS ride [kurtamaxxguy]
Nov 07, 2005 (8:34 pm)
Based on my short test drive of the Maxx SS, I'm sorry I can't really give you a definitive answer there. On epinions there's a Maxx SS review by one of their "professional" reviewers. Just do a search there for tests of 2006 Malibus, and it'll be one of two- the other is of a sedan 4 cyl. The reviewer seems to really like it, and mentioned that while the ride was a little firmer than the Maxx LT, it wasn't punishing. No mention on fuel economy, however. I'm really starting to lean towards an LTZ. 26 mpg sounds not so bad now as gas in the northeast starts heading back down towards $2.00/gal, but I'm sure we'll see spikes in the future that'd have me wishing I'd gotten a car that did better than the SS wrt fuel mileage.
Maxxliberty, I've had a Golf with 50 series tires for many years as a daily driver, 4-season car, with no problems with rim protection, etc. I did run some 45 series tires for a while though, and you'd be right there- pot holes did result in flat-spotted rims. Nevertheless, some winter snow tires on dedicated rims wouldn't be a bad idea for most any car used over a northeast winter.
One final note- I've noticed that anyone wishing to get a two-tone titanium interior in a Maxx LTZ will have to choose from what's already out there- Chevy's website doesn't allow you to build them that way anymore. But you can find them on dealer lots if you do a vehicle search. Not sure what's behind it, and maybe they'll start again at some point (possible supply problem?).
#3956 of 5257 Highest mileage
Nov 08, 2005 (4:53 am)
Ok..who has the most miles on their Maxx so far....mine was purchased March 04.....LT loaded.....will roll over 51k this weekend headed back to SC from VA and return....just curious
#3957 of 5257 Re: Highest mileage [pao]
Nov 08, 2005 (11:43 am)
Well, i have rolled over 32K at the end of last month.
I have parked my because it isnt reliable.. I have since purchased a Toyota Corolla and have been very very very happy with it. The thing that impresses me the most is the gas mileage. I am getting about 400 miles to the tank, and it only costs me a 20 to fill it up. In comparism, The Maxx gets about 300 mpg, but it costs me 40 to fill.
I still love my Maxx, but I will never buy another GM product ever again.. This car has been to the shop more times than any other car I have ever owned, combined. Its a shame that GM can't back the product that they sell, once you have a real problem...
Until I win and they come and haul away their pos , my shiny black Maxx with black tint and 18 inch chrome wheels will be sitting pretty, in front of my house..
#3958 of 5257 Re: SS ride [ronbo10]
Nov 08, 2005 (4:59 pm)
From ronbo10: "Maxxliberty, I've had a Golf with 50 series tires for many years as a daily driver, 4-season car, with no problems with rim protection, etc. I did run some 45 series tires for a while though, and you'd be right there- pot holes did result in flat-spotted rims. Nevertheless, some winter snow tires on dedicated rims wouldn't be a bad idea for most any car used over a northeast winter."
It seems the question should be what are the advantages of a 50 series tire over say a 70 series - my preferred tire. A 50 series is worse in the snow and wet. It is harder riding, tends to be less fuel efficient and probably less wear efficient. So for 98% of motorists exactly what is the advantage of a 50 series tire? There is only one advantage that I'm aware of and that is allowing for more space for larger brakes. If huge wheel sizes are needed for brake applications then it makes sense but I doubt that is the case.
If nothing else I would like a CHOICE of wheel sizes when buying a Maxx. I try to stay away from fads so I'm not interested in the current "fashion tire" fade but would prefer the optimum tire/wheel size for my usage (P215/R70-15).
#3959 of 5257 Re: SS ride [maxxliberty]
Nov 09, 2005 (3:35 am)
I'd have to agree with you with respect to rim size. 20 inchers look ridiculous- SUV's with wagon wheels and 40 series tires make no sense to me, and don't look proportional. Oh well, eye of the beholder, I guess. But to answer your question about why 50 series? Fashion trends aside, the desire to do plus 1 or plus 2 wheel tire conversions (that is to say, 1 inch or two inch bigger than stock configuration) was historically to gain the advantages of the lower aspect ratio tire, which was principally transient response and low tire slip angle. With less side wall to flex, the response of the car to a steering input would be more immediate with a 50 series tire vice a 60 or 70 series tire, all else being equal. That is the reason I tried the 45 series tires with my Golf- improved handling. It was, in the end, a handling/ride trade off that for me wasn't acceptable. Bent rims aside, I'd have gone back to the 50 series anyway.
As car performance has risen over the years with ever more powerful engines, the need to be able to slow a car down from increasingly higher speeds becomes a design priority. I'd guess the most common way to increase braking capacity is a larger brake rotor and calipers with multiple pots etc., necessitating a larger diameter wheel to accomodate them. I will say though that the brakes on the Maxx SS, which receive no upgrade over base models, look a bit tiny inside those 18 inch rims. A disadvantage of the large rims can be increased unsprung weight, which can have the effect of giving a poorer ride, ride characteristics of the tire aside.
BTW, I just put down money on an '06 Maxx LTZ, which as you've noted, come with 17 inch/50 series tires. I'll let you know how they hold up over the winter, and what kind of performance advantage (if any) I am able to discern. Might be a tough call, as my time in a Maxx with 60 series tires is limited.
#3960 of 5257 Re: Highest mileage [maxx10]
Nov 09, 2005 (5:00 am)
sorry to hear of the problems....uuummm near a one with mine....of course Im probably one of the few on here that sings the praises of this car.....I added custom wheels to mine...and then went back to the standard OEM wheels for winter in northern va...noticed almost a 2MPG increase in mileage..I get 400 plus miles to a tank city...and got almost 500 this weekend interstate driving..at 34.5 MPG....
Sorry for the bad experience in service as well..Im convinced the service departments these days are fully trained or care about customer service...mine has been great in dealing with minor issues..and got it right the first time....as for another GM product..well....our brand new 06 Pontiac Solstice was built last week..and should have it by thanksgiving....so.....
what is your major problem with the car????....electronic..or other...
#3961 of 5257 Re: SS ride [ronbo10]
Nov 09, 2005 (5:03 am)
I did 30k on 17 inch rims with 50 series tires (04 Maxx LT)..the stance and width of the tire adds to the car's appearance....makes for a slightly harsher ride....I also had to watch the tire rotation and alignment...as the extra weight of the tire and rim played with the camber slightly.....will be interested in your experience
#3962 of 5257 Re: Highest mileage [pao]
Nov 09, 2005 (10:36 am)
Here are my issues,
1. Radio - replaced 10 times with one on order
2. Steering column - replaced 4 times
3. Headlamps- shake and shimmy when driving
4. Car running- car stalls out periodically, and won't start at times. Sometimes the car will release a cloud of white smoke
5. Leak- There is a water leak in the rear of the car that has yet to be fixed after 4 times and a month at the dealership.
Those are all that I can think of right now. But I have a very very sick 2004 Maxx
Its a shame that I have to sue GM to make them do the right thing
#3963 of 5257 Re: Highest mileage [maxx10]
Nov 09, 2005 (10:56 am)
wow..a list indeed..sorry for the trouble...press them under the lemon law....but with 32k on the car..they will still charge some wear and tear....of course depends on the state..but after three times for the same issue here in VA..the lemon law kicks in......seems you have that issue on the steering column...white smoke...a gasket problem....and the water leak...seal or manufacture problem..must have been made on a Mon or Fri....grin...good luck....hoep GM makes it right for you
#3964 of 5257 Re: Highest mileage [pao]
Nov 09, 2005 (1:42 pm)
Yeah it would be nice if GM took care of me. But I don't see that happening expect with the help of my attorney. Yes I am following thru with the Indiana lemon law. Since I contacted them long before I got to 32k, I still fall under those guidelines.. My problems started at 6k.
Because my car is so unreliable, I had to purchase another car... (Toyota Corolla), but I think I already mentioned that