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#778 of 784 Re: FL Docs fees out of control [euphonium]
Mar 09, 2011 (8:30 am)
They always do that, then act surprised like "Gee how'd that get there" or make it sound like everybody does it that way. Most will adjust the trade-in or price to account for it when you point it out to them, but it is slimy the way they try to slide it in there, hoping you won't notice.
#779 of 784 Re: FL Docs fees out of control [mikefm58]
Mar 09, 2011 (1:57 pm)
When its $699 it hard not to notice it!
#780 of 784 This thread has quieted down considerably
Jul 11, 2013 (9:01 am)
Its been quiet here on Doc fees.
That's strange because here in FL they have broken the stratosphere and are halfway to Jupiter. The Cadillac dealers are at $600-700.
But the absolute worst offenders are the kia dealers, they are at $700-800. I mean you have got to be kidding me, but they're not. I guess it's part of their plan the make the screamer ads touting "$3,000 minimum trade in" and still have a buyer walking out paying more than MSRP... WTF ???
I actually went to several kia dealers last spring (looking for my nephew) and yup, they add on way more than $3,000 in Doc fees, advert, and etc., so that the $13,000 MSRP kia rio (or whatever)r costs $14,000 AFTER the $3,000 trade in.
And this is on kias.
#781 of 784 Re: This thread has quieted down considerably [cadillacmike]
Jul 12, 2013 (2:58 am)
Kia dealers do seem a bit behind the times when it comes to selling. Any dealer which uses screamer ads are best avoided.
Regarding doc fees, the best way to handle these fees would be for all buyers to walk out. If this were to happen, I doubt it would take the dealers very long to eliminate this charade. Sadly this will not happen, there are simply too many unsophisticated buyers.
The most effective method a single buyer can use is to factor the amount into the purchase price, reduce the price to compensate for the doc fee. I recently bought a vehicle in Virginia. Dealer had a $499 doc fee. After we negotiated the bottom line, I told the sales person I would not pay the doc fee. The dealer quickly lowered the price by $250 and increased the trade value by $250. There was a guy at the next table who I heard take the same approach with similar success.
Anyone interested in an insider's perspective on doc fees should google Earl Stewart on Cars. He has some very insightful comments on the Florida doc fee fiasco.
#782 of 784 Re: This thread has quieted down considerably [cadillacmike]
Jul 12, 2013 (6:31 am)
Cadillacmike....go to Hollywood Kia.com No dealer fees
#783 of 784 Re: This thread has quieted down considerably [ken117]
Jul 12, 2013 (8:07 am)
Thanks. I looked Earl up. Jeez, it's even worse on the gold coast than on the sun coast. I think my next war will have to be another 1996 Fleetwood, the new car market is just too screwed up.
For those of you who do not know, Florida's "Gold coast" is the southern half of its Atlantic coast from approx West Palm on down, while the "Sun coast" is the gulf coast from approx Clearwater on down.
#784 of 784 Re: This thread has quieted down considerably [nortd]
Jul 12, 2013 (9:34 am)
Nort, I'm currently in the desert, and can't go to any dealer. My nephew ended up buying a Mitsubishi (I have another word for it that Kirstie will censor on me! ).
Of course he was too stubborn to ask me or my wife for any assistance so he got taken to the cleaners.....
As for cars for me & the misses, just look at my userid for what I buy.