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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [tallman1] by lrguy44
Jul 22, 2009 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 22, 2009 4:16 pm)

You got that right. There was a big class action several years ago claiming racial discrimination on finance rates - i.e. minorities paid higher interest on cars. I wonder f they gave any credence to credit worthiness.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [lrguy44] by imidazol97
Jul 22, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: lrguy44 (Jul 22, 2009 4:49 pm)

> I wonder f they gave any credence to credit worthiness.
 
No.
 
The same lack of comparative credit worthiness is ignored in home mortgage data in the past years and the resulting data used to show bias in lending. Same thing has happened in cars. The groups who want to try to prove their point use the data which is not correctly interpreted.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [imidazol97] by joel0622
Jul 24, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 22, 2009 6:08 pm)

True, I can prove any point you want me to if you let me interpret the data the way I see fit lol
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [joel0622] by counselor4444
Aug 28, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jul 24, 2009 8:29 am)

I'm a tad confused.... from reading above am I to understand that you can negotiate and get rid of the documentation fee? what are those fees usually for?
 
TIA!
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [counselor4444] by euphonium
Aug 28, 2009 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: counselor4444 (Aug 28, 2009 1:32 pm)

Simple. Issue your check in the amount you are willing to pay. The seller can take it or leave it. In these times of the economy, he'll take it.
 
The label,"Additional Dealer Profit" has been replaced with "Doc fee". Both BS.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [joel0622] by joel0622
Aug 29, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jul 24, 2009 8:29 am)

Offer an OTD price. The consumer should care less if the DOC is $3000 as long as the OTD is what they are willing to pay.
 
Our DOC is $75 on A/X/Z/D plans and $375 on regular retail deals. I have maybe 5 people at the most balk at it in a months time. out of an average of 150 deals a month that is really nothing. I think part of the reason is because on our buyers orders in black bold letters it says it is to recover admin cost and it is profit. If ou are upfront and just tell people it is extra profit they usually say, oh ok, and thats the end of it.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [joel0622] by lrguy44
Aug 29, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Aug 29, 2009 8:15 am)

Ours is $199 and since we are much lower than most of the local dealers it is rarely an issue and easily overcome.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [joel0622] by jipster
Aug 29, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Aug 29, 2009 8:15 am)

If ou are upfront and just tell people it is extra profit they usually say, oh ok, and thats the end of it.
 
All extra profit huh? Just as I suspected. I'm taking this news alert to the "Confessions of a Used Car Salesman" writer.
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Re: Doc fee - processing fee (now you know) [jipster] by joel0622
Aug 29, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Aug 29, 2009 11:37 am)

All extra profit huh? Just as I suspected. I'm taking this news alert to the "Confessions of a Used Car Salesman" writer
 
Make sure you quote me. I want my props. I have neve been mentioned in a fiction story before.
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Confusing Buyers Order line items? by mavenone
Sep 07, 2009 (10:19 am)
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I signed up 'Retail Buyers Order' for a Vehicle at a TN dealer that is "in-transit".
 
This is waht the buyers order says.
 
MSRP: 31800.00
Business Tax: 96.60
Doc Fee: 399.00
sub-total: 32295.60
state sales tax: 2260.00
Local sales tax: 80.00
License Fee: 117.00
Temporary Tag: 5.50
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Total: 34758.00
Rebate: 1250.00
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Total (after rebate): 33508.79
 
What is confusing us is tax percent in TN is 9.25%, but 2260 tax is 7.1% of 31800?
 
I don't know what they mean by by business tax.
 
Can someone explain these numbers?
 
Thanks in advance.

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