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#615 of 667 Re: What to expect in title and licensing fees in Texas? [hammuh] by jipster May 09, 2008 (4:27 am)
Replying to: hammuh (May 08, 2008 8:09 pm) Title and registration usually around $50 total I believe. Doc. fees usually go from $0 to $599 (higher doc. fees in Florida)... depending on your negotiation skills. Doc fees are negotiable. I would try to get your title, registration and doc. fees for around $100-$150. Most dealership documentation fees are between $299 and $399... but again, this is their asking price.   Some dealerships have their doc. fees pre-printed on their contracts though. So, they may say they can't do anything about it. If you feel it is too high, then say fine, I'll pay your doc. fee... but I want the difference off the price of the car.   Of course you may have gotten a low price for your G35 because the dealership plans on springing a $499 doc. fee on you when you show up... to make up for any so called lost profit. Up to you to what you feel comfortable paying. Good luck with your G35. They are really nice cars.   edited: I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Texas may do things a bit differently with their doc. fees.
#616 of 667 need help negotiating: DOC fees!!! by annmarie4 Dec 17, 2008 (6:45 pm)
Hi. I am trying to buy a used Toyota. When I thought the price was final, they threw a $300 Doc fee on it, with no explanation. At the time I planned on financing part of it. If I pay cash and credit card for the vehicle and do not finance through them, can they legally still charge such a fee? If not, how do I go about proving this? THanks for any advice you can give. annmarie Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Dec 17, 2008 7:13 pm) jipster (Dec 18, 2008 5:04 am) mikefm58 (Dec 18, 2008 6:36 am)
#617 of 667 Re: need help negotiating: DOC fees!!! [annmarie4] by imidazol97 Dec 17, 2008 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: annmarie4 (Dec 17, 2008 6:45 pm) Some dealers try to add on large fees for extra profit trying to make the customer feel they are mandated. Some even say they're required by state law. IN the case of Ohio, the last I saw, the doc fee allowed by state law was raised a few years back to $250. It does not mean they HAVE to charge anything. It just says it can't be over $250.   Just ignore the extra amount in your pricing. If you don't like the dealer pumping extra profit on you, find another dealer. There are lots of cars and lots of people can't get credit to buy them.
#618 of 667 Re: need help negotiating: DOC fees!!! [annmarie4] by jipster Dec 18, 2008 (5:04 am)
Replying to: annmarie4 (Dec 17, 2008 6:45 pm) Tell the dealership you'll pay no more than $100 for the doc. fee... take it or leave it.
#619 of 667 Re: need help negotiating: DOC fees!!! [annmarie4] by mikefm58 Dec 18, 2008 (6:36 am)
Replying to: annmarie4 (Dec 17, 2008 6:45 pm) Here in Florida where the typical doc. fee can be in excess of $600, the dealer will always say, "If we don't charge everyone for it, we can get sued by some minority, it's even pre-printed on the invoice, see", and they are probably right. On the last vehicle I bought with a doc. fee, I asked what the fee was upfront and simply deducted that from my original offer.   Tell them you'll pay the doc. fee but deduct that fee from the agreed on price since they were not upfront with it. Be ready to walk out though.
#620 of 667 As for any "fee" by euphonium Dec 18, 2008 (3:11 pm)
Just as you are not obligated to pay a "policy" fee on your car or home insurance, you are not legally obligated to pay a "documentation" fee on your new vehicle.   "Oh, you have a "DOC"? See me walk!
#621 of 667 by hulkedup Dec 29, 2008 (4:04 pm)
I'm having a lot of problems with documentation fees in trying to buy a new Scion. It fact, it's been the deal breaker for at least three dealers already. I've already agreed to pay MSRP for the Scion, but the dealers in Massachusetts want an additional $300-600 in these fees. When I've balked at paying that they just say there's nothing they can do and decline to work with me. I've even been told it's a Scion fee!   It's bad enough to buy at MSRP these days, but paying a doc. fee is just an insult. Replies to this message: exb0 (Dec 29, 2008 5:04 pm) mikefm58 (Dec 29, 2008 5:53 pm) exb0 (Dec 30, 2008 6:58 am)
#622 of 667 Re: [hulkedup] by exb0 Dec 29, 2008 (5:04 pm)
Replying to: hulkedup (Dec 29, 2008 4:04 pm) Do yourself a favor and call these guys: www.fitzmall.com. These guys sell Scions at invoice and only $100 processing fee. It is only 9 hour drive from MD to MA. For $1000 in savings, I am sure it's worth it. Replies to this message: mikefm58 (Dec 29, 2008 5:53 pm) exb0 (Dec 30, 2008 6:58 am)
#623 of 667 Re: [exb0] by mikefm58 Dec 29, 2008 (5:53 pm)
Replying to: exb0 (Dec 29, 2008 5:04 pm) I thought all Scions were sold at list price, kind of like a Saturn, no negotiation? The fees are usually non-negotiable, though on other brands you can sometimes get them to deduct from the price or add to the trade in amount to negate the fees, but they're still written up in the contract. Replies to this message: exb0 (Dec 30, 2008 6:58 am)
#624 of 667 Re: [mikefm58] by exb0 Dec 30, 2008 (6:58 am)
Replying to: mikefm58 (Dec 29, 2008 5:53 pm) I thought all Scions were sold at list price, kind of like a Saturn, no negotiation?   That is incorrect. Scions have to be sold at a fixed price; however, dealer determines what that price is, as long as all customers get the same price. Most dealers choose to sell Scions at MSRP, fitzmall decided to sell them at invoice. CarMax discounts them $250 off MSRP.   As far as the processing fee, all dealers in MD are caped at $100.

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