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I have bought 27 vehicles in my lifetime, and recently, here in NC, I came upon a used passenger van sitting on a well known Ford lot here in HIckory/Conover, NC. area.. I had been looking a few months and though this vehicle had more miles than I was comfortable with, it was one owner and dealer serviced its whole life, etc with records and such. So with the price stated on the window, the salesman got his GM who said they woould be willing to drop it $500.00 more to move it on a cash deal- so I said OK. I had the cash and wouldn't need financing anyway. So when we started to do paperwork inside, all of a sudden, outside of NC sales tax and title & plate costs, all of a sudden this "Doc Fee' came up which was an additional $500.00 or so basically bringing the car price back up to and just above what it was before the GM said they would take the $500.00 off the price to move it off the lot. So seeing this, I stopped signing papers and got upset asking what this is for, and they couldn't tell me except say it goes for the mechanics in the back for prepping the vehicle, etc. I told them I never saw such a doc fee in my life, and asked them to lower it and they told me it cannot be done. Still, owning many vehicles in my time, I NEVER paid more than perhaps 75.00 on any doc fee, and today seeing this huge amount seems very wrong and unethical to state a few points. How can these dealerships face customers with such a bogus fee for doing nothing but the required paperwork they must do under law? In my small business or any other business I know of, NOBODY can charge for paperwork processing fees as those are part of the normal business transaction, yet these dealers are charging people in my area these outrageous Doc Fees and it is a scam and does not seem liek they should be allowed to do so. I do know NC has no cap on any such doc fees, but in this time of economice troubles and high gas prices, how can these dealers charge such huge doc fees and expect to keep business going? I wish I could charge all my customers a fee for writing an invoice or traveling miles on my time to give them an estimate, etc..
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Replying to: slackovic (Apr 21, 2008 7:03 pm) It's just the trend nowadays. To save your time, when you offer a price for a car, say $X plus tax tag & title, includes all other fees. I'm going to be hitting the dealer lots this weekend and will see how that works.
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Apr 22, 2008 7:40 am) of vehicle purchasing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No muss and a bit of fuss.........and time! But he swears it works for him! |
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Apr 22, 2008 7:40 am) You would save 2 or 3 seconds if you simply said, "$x Out the Door". Guys with busy schedules don't have a lot of time to waste at dealerships these days. 
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Apr 21, 2008 5:28 pm) |
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Replying to: cccompson (Apr 21, 2008 2:41 pm) John |
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Hello, I am going to purchase a 2007 Infiniti G35 Journey in Texas tomorrow. We negotiated the price, pre TTL, this afternoon. I am aware of the 6.25% sales tax, but would be grateful for any information regarding reasonable document, title and registration fees. Thanks!
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Replying to: hammuh (May 08, 2008 8:09 pm) Some dealerships have their doc. fees pre-printed on their contracts though. So, they may say they can't do anything about it. If you feel it is too high, then say fine, I'll pay your doc. fee... but I want the difference off the price of the car. Of course you may have gotten a low price for your G35 because the dealership plans on springing a $499 doc. fee on you when you show up... to make up for any so called lost profit. Up to you to what you feel comfortable paying. Good luck with your G35. They are really nice cars. edited: I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Texas may do things a bit differently with their doc. fees. |
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Hi. I am trying to buy a used Toyota. When I thought the price was final, they threw a $300 Doc fee on it, with no explanation. At the time I planned on financing part of it. If I pay cash and credit card for the vehicle and do not finance through them, can they legally still charge such a fee? If not, how do I go about proving this? THanks for any advice you can give. annmarie
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Replying to: annmarie4 (Dec 17, 2008 6:45 pm) Just ignore the extra amount in your pricing. If you don't like the dealer pumping extra profit on you, find another dealer. There are lots of cars and lots of people can't get credit to buy them. |
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