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667 messages, Last post on Sep 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM
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Wondering if wifey still has French Maid costume from Halloween, LOL Yeeeeeaaah, you go boy ...! But anyway (Slap) .. what were we talking about, oh yeah.! I charge $99 with a trade and $49 without. Now thats me, I know other dealers charge more and I'm sure some charge less -- by the way, the reason why you did all your own work on the last 2 was .. one was private and the other one was out of state via dealer. Now sometimes I still have to do the work, cuz most states are recriprocol and I still have to pay all the taxes Upfront, then you get a tax paid sheet, then all you do is grab the tag when the 30 day temp starts to run out .. Did she have a little feather duster .l.o.l.. I didn't say that .. or did I. Terry. |
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Of course doc fees cover some legitimate expenses. Of course doc fees are used to increase the profit on a deal. And of course, everyone posting about them knows this. That so many are going to bat for the great uninformed masses is touching. What's the big shock about this anyway? Are some people really naive enough to believe that they can continue to buy for invoice or less with no attempt by dealers to recoup this? How many people paid doc fees when they bought cars in the 50', 60's, or 70's? Very, very few. Profit margins on cars are at their lowest level ever thanks to many factors including the fact that dealer invoice is now common knowledge for those that care to look for it. Someone doesn't like a dealer's doc fee? Fine. They're free to buy from whoever they like. But to whine about it like it's a total affront to commerce is ridiculous. |
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| Doc fees are on the high side here. I don't like it myself, would prefer to have that money in the gross and get paid on it. | |
| Just like the speed-pass (or whatever it was called) anti-theft system that was installed in every new and used car at a Ford dealer I wrote F&I for (for a very short period of time). The charge was $249.00 for this $15 item - to remove the item took less than 2 minutes, to decline took a line through the pre-entered price on the buyer's order. For every unit we sold, we made $234, for the ones that were reclined, there were no hard feelings. | |
| who can argue with that amount. $398 or $499.95...just doesn't make sense. Shop the the doc! | |
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Don't bother shopping the DOC....it makes much more sense to shop the whole deal. Do you really care if the DOC fee is $5 or $5000 if the bottom line is the lowest?? |
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| If these fees are such a vital part of paying for your expenses, I wonder how car dealers survive in a state like New York that has a limit in the fees of around $40? | |
| the system was abused and the dealers just have to deal with it. | |
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by increasing the price of the car to generate the profits they need. Why is this all so complex? If a customer gets socked with a doc fee after the price was agreed upon, then there was a miscommunication. If the customer failed to ask for an out-the-door price, including all dealer fees, it's the customer's fault. He/she needs to deal with his/her own failure and not blame the dealer. If the customer DID ask for an out-the-door price including all dealer fees, and the salesperson failed to disclose the doc fee at that time, it's the sales-person's fault and the customer should consider not rewarding such behavior with a sale. See - it's simple! Therefore I conclude that much of the angst in this topic must be generated from some other agenda, such as begrudging the dealer his profit.... |
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