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Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) When they tried to add it to the contract, and I saw it I said reduce the cost of the car by the doc fee and then you can add it back in on the contract, otherwise it's a deal breaker, and I don't buy the car. So far this has always worked... good luck. |
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Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) A lot of us make Out-the-Door (OTD) offers which include all of the fees we feel like paying - taxes, transportation, tags, etc. If we don't feel like paying a Doc fee, we don't include it in our OTD offer. When we purchased an Accord in 2005, we offered $20700 OTD. They accepted, so we wrote them a check for that amount and drove the new car home. That's how we avoid worrying about a Doc fee. |
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| There are a number of states (CA, PA, IL, OH, MD, etc) that legally limit doc fees and if you live close enough to another state you can use this bit of information. Carmax is a good place to start but this list is not complete: Carmax Estimator . | |
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It is preprinted on our buyers orders in big black bold numbers it has has an arrow pointed at it with a note next to the arrow in black bold print that says. Processing Fee represents dealers recovery of adminisstrative overhead expenses plus dealer profit I.E you are paying the light and water bill and the we are putting the rest in the bank. 1 out of 100 question it. It hardly even comes up, when people ask what it is I tell them to read the description and they usually laugh and say well at least your honest about it. But like many previous posters have said. to the smart car buyer it really does not matter because they are dealing in OTD numbers any way. People who don't negotiate OTD numbers are probably paying more, they just don't relize it.
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Replying to: joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm) The problem is, at least here in central Florida, the fee is about $500 and it's not disclosed until we get in the business office. Now I've been aware of this for some time so when I negotiate, I'm upfront and say my price includes all dealer fees, then add tax tag & title. Being fee'ed to death is a pet peeve with me. Why not just include the fee in the price of the car? In the end, it doesn't make a difference.
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 3:14 pm) |
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The average DOC charge in my neck of the woods Daytona and West Palm Beach is $1500 !!!!!!!!!!! Thank god NY limits DOC to $75 bucks !
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Replying to: geo9 (Mar 10, 2007 4:19 pm) |
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Nope..............Usually depending on the state the DOC must be disclosed in the fine print in the newspaper ads. Noted the $1500 DOC ( the DOC varied depending upon brand but only by a few bucks!)in the fine print when I was at my Daytona place last week reading the Daytona news........ DOC fees are about the same and disclosed in the Philly papers also............. Imagine buying a toyota there and getting wacked with the SET fee also. Not to mention the ad fees every auto maker charges ! Sure glad I get that GM Employee deal.........NO ad fee, DOC also limited to $75 (used to be NO DOC fee) and a HUGE discount on top of rebates etc........... I guess for the average buyer the Out The Door or "Bobst" method is the ONLY way to buy !!!!!!!!! 
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Replying to: geo9 (Mar 11, 2007 7:14 am) |
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