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#480 of 667 Ohio Documentation Fee by buckeyelarry Dec 30, 2006 (1:34 pm)
Interesting history on documentation fee - agree it primarily benefits the dealer.   Anyone out there get the fee waived - or reduced to less than $100 on new car purchase?   I'm in finally stages of negoiations - to assure no surprises I requested a pro forma invoice for the purchase. I was not totally surprised to see the documentation fee. However it will be a point to be negoiated prior to purchase as in my written proposal to the dealer, not included. Dealer will need to adjust price or provide a service of value.   Curious as to others experience in this area. Replies to this message: ppborceb (Dec 30, 2006 2:01 pm) bobst (Dec 30, 2006 5:08 pm)
#481 of 667 Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by ppborceb Dec 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) I have NEVER paid a doc fee! When they tried to add it to the contract, and I saw it I said reduce the cost of the car by the doc fee and then you can add it back in on the contract, otherwise it's a deal breaker, and I don't buy the car. So far this has always worked... good luck.
#482 of 667 Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by bobst Dec 30, 2006 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) "Curious as to others experience in this area."   A lot of us make Out-the-Door (OTD) offers which include all of the fees we feel like paying - taxes, transportation, tags, etc. If we don't feel like paying a Doc fee, we don't include it in our OTD offer.   When we purchased an Accord in 2005, we offered $20700 OTD. They accepted, so we wrote them a check for that amount and drove the new car home.   That's how we avoid worrying about a Doc fee.
#483 of 667 Not complete but useful by abraindrainer Dec 30, 2006 (7:48 pm)
There are a number of states (CA, PA, IL, OH, MD, etc) that legally limit doc fees and if you live close enough to another state you can use this bit of information. Carmax is a good place to start but this list is not complete: Carmax Estimator .
#484 of 667 Our Processing fee is $375 by joel0622 Mar 10, 2007 (12:39 pm)
It is preprinted on our buyers orders in big black bold numbers it has has an arrow pointed at it with a note next to the arrow in black bold print that says.   Processing Fee represents dealers recovery of adminisstrative overhead expenses plus dealer profit   I.E you are paying the light and water bill and the we are putting the rest in the bank.   1 out of 100 question it. It hardly even comes up, when people ask what it is I tell them to read the description and they usually laugh and say well at least your honest about it.   But like many previous posters have said. to the smart car buyer it really does not matter because they are dealing in OTD numbers any way. People who don't negotiate OTD numbers are probably paying more, they just don't relize it. Replies to this message: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 3:14 pm) joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 3:18 pm)
#485 of 667 Re: Our Processing fee is $375 [joel0622] by mikefm58 Mar 10, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Replying to: joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm) It is preprinted on our buyers orders in big black bold numbers it has has an arrow pointed at it with a note next to the arrow in black bold print that says.   The problem is, at least here in central Florida, the fee is about $500 and it's not disclosed until we get in the business office. Now I've been aware of this for some time so when I negotiate, I'm upfront and say my price includes all dealer fees, then add tax tag & title.   Being fee'ed to death is a pet peeve with me. Why not just include the fee in the price of the car? In the end, it doesn't make a difference. Replies to this message: joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 3:18 pm)
#486 of 667 Re: Our Processing fee is $375 [mikefm58] by joel0622 Mar 10, 2007 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 3:14 pm) Ya that is weak busting it out on you after you think you have reached an agreement. That would probably make me walk to
#487 of 667 MIKE by geo9 Mar 10, 2007 (4:19 pm)
The average DOC charge in my neck of the woods Daytona  and West Palm Beach is $1500 !!!!!!!!!!!   Thank god NY limits DOC to $75 bucks ! Replies to this message: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 4:26 pm)
#488 of 667 Re: MIKE [geo9] by mikefm58 Mar 10, 2007 (4:26 pm)
Replying to: geo9 (Mar 10, 2007 4:19 pm) $1500???? Wow, that beats them all. Is that on any dealer's website?
#489 of 667 MIKE by geo9 Mar 11, 2007 (7:14 am)
Nope..............Usually depending on the state the DOC must be disclosed in the fine print in the newspaper ads. Noted the $1500 DOC ( the DOC varied depending upon brand but only by a few bucks!)in the fine print when I was at my Daytona place last week reading the Daytona news........   DOC fees are about the same and disclosed in the Philly papers also.............   Imagine buying a toyota there and getting wacked with the SET fee also.   Not to mention the ad fees every auto maker charges !   Sure glad I get that GM Employee deal.........NO ad fee, DOC also limited to $75 (used to be NO DOC fee) and a HUGE discount on top of rebates etc...........   I guess for the average buyer the Out The Door or "Bobst" method is the ONLY way to buy !!!!!!!!! Replies to this message: joel0622 (Mar 11, 2007 7:49 am)

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