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#477 of 667 Re: Help, I made a mistake! [exb0] by mikefm58 Nov 21, 2006 (6:58 am)
Replying to: exb0 (Nov 21, 2006 6:08 am) He might be stuck as there usually is some fine print in Autotrader ads. If he paid via credit card, then yes, stil disupute the charge, even if it was credit card via Paypal.
#478 of 667 Re: Shoot... [cccompson] by audia8q Nov 21, 2006 (8:08 am)
Replying to: cccompson (Nov 11, 2006 2:00 pm) Six percent (Ohio's sales tax rate) of the extra $220.00 is a helluva lot less than the extra $220.00 each dealer pockets on each sale.   of course its less, so what is your point?....do the math based on the number of sales in Ohio and add it up. You will see that the increase will bring in a dump truck filled with money to the states coffers...since the dealer is doing all the work for the revenue and the state is doing nothing, why shouldn't the dealer make the majority of the increase?. Remember, the voters could get rid of it if they put enough pressure of the legislature. pretty simple... Replies to this message: cccompson (Dec 10, 2006 4:39 am)
#479 of 667 Re: Shoot... [audia8q] by cccompson Dec 10, 2006 (4:39 am)
Replying to: audia8q (Nov 21, 2006 8:08 am) My point was that the increase in tax revenue is a mere pittance compared to the windfall the dealers have garnered.   However, your point is well taken - raising the fee certainly didn't work against the interests of the state.
#480 of 667 Ohio Documentation Fee by buckeyelarry Dec 30, 2006 (1:34 pm)
Interesting history on documentation fee - agree it primarily benefits the dealer.   Anyone out there get the fee waived - or reduced to less than $100 on new car purchase?   I'm in finally stages of negoiations - to assure no surprises I requested a pro forma invoice for the purchase. I was not totally surprised to see the documentation fee. However it will be a point to be negoiated prior to purchase as in my written proposal to the dealer, not included. Dealer will need to adjust price or provide a service of value.   Curious as to others experience in this area. Replies to this message: ppborceb (Dec 30, 2006 2:01 pm) bobst (Dec 30, 2006 5:08 pm)
#481 of 667 Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by ppborceb Dec 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) I have NEVER paid a doc fee! When they tried to add it to the contract, and I saw it I said reduce the cost of the car by the doc fee and then you can add it back in on the contract, otherwise it's a deal breaker, and I don't buy the car. So far this has always worked... good luck.
#482 of 667 Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by bobst Dec 30, 2006 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm) "Curious as to others experience in this area."   A lot of us make Out-the-Door (OTD) offers which include all of the fees we feel like paying - taxes, transportation, tags, etc. If we don't feel like paying a Doc fee, we don't include it in our OTD offer.   When we purchased an Accord in 2005, we offered $20700 OTD. They accepted, so we wrote them a check for that amount and drove the new car home.   That's how we avoid worrying about a Doc fee.
#483 of 667 Not complete but useful by abraindrainer Dec 30, 2006 (7:48 pm)
There are a number of states (CA, PA, IL, OH, MD, etc) that legally limit doc fees and if you live close enough to another state you can use this bit of information. Carmax is a good place to start but this list is not complete: Carmax Estimator .
#484 of 667 Our Processing fee is $375 by joel0622 Mar 10, 2007 (12:39 pm)
It is preprinted on our buyers orders in big black bold numbers it has has an arrow pointed at it with a note next to the arrow in black bold print that says.   Processing Fee represents dealers recovery of adminisstrative overhead expenses plus dealer profit   I.E you are paying the light and water bill and the we are putting the rest in the bank.   1 out of 100 question it. It hardly even comes up, when people ask what it is I tell them to read the description and they usually laugh and say well at least your honest about it.   But like many previous posters have said. to the smart car buyer it really does not matter because they are dealing in OTD numbers any way. People who don't negotiate OTD numbers are probably paying more, they just don't relize it. Replies to this message: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 3:14 pm) joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 3:18 pm)
#485 of 667 Re: Our Processing fee is $375 [joel0622] by mikefm58 Mar 10, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Replying to: joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm) It is preprinted on our buyers orders in big black bold numbers it has has an arrow pointed at it with a note next to the arrow in black bold print that says.   The problem is, at least here in central Florida, the fee is about $500 and it's not disclosed until we get in the business office. Now I've been aware of this for some time so when I negotiate, I'm upfront and say my price includes all dealer fees, then add tax tag & title.   Being fee'ed to death is a pet peeve with me. Why not just include the fee in the price of the car? In the end, it doesn't make a difference. Replies to this message: joel0622 (Mar 10, 2007 3:18 pm)
#486 of 667 Re: Our Processing fee is $375 [mikefm58] by joel0622 Mar 10, 2007 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: mikefm58 (Mar 10, 2007 3:14 pm) Ya that is weak busting it out on you after you think you have reached an agreement. That would probably make me walk to

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