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Re: Shoot... [cccompson] by audia8q
Nov 11, 2006 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Nov 11, 2006 9:49 am)

Doc fees are taxable....so the higher the doc fee the more tax revenue that is generated for your state. Do the math based on the total number of cars sold via dealers in your state and you will see why almost every gov/legislature will gladly increase doc fees if there is a cap. Has nothing to do with the political party. Last time I check Democrats arent exactly the champions of lower taxes. How else could they give it all away to undeserving people?
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Re: Shoot... [audia8q] by cccompson
Nov 11, 2006 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Nov 11, 2006 10:02 am)

Six percent (Ohio's sales tax rate) of the extra $220.00 is a helluva lot less than the extra $220.00 each dealer pockets on each sale.
 
Republican or Democrat makes no difference - the only way crap likes this happens is because some industry wanted it.
 
The doc fee held steady for well over two decades at $30.00 through Democrats and Republicans. As you may have heard during the campaign just past, Ohio has had a bit of a problem with political corruption of late.
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Help, I made a mistake! by jamesd1057
Nov 20, 2006 (9:49 pm)
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Help, I made a mistake! I put a deposit on a 2005 Kia Spectra5. Awsome price of $8500. Very happy with the deal. Autotrader advertised, called car dealer (200 miles away), secured the car with a $500 deposit. WIll pick up in 3 days. When I got faxed the "Retail Order" there was a $599 mark up for "costs and profits , cleaning paper work ect." .
 
Florida buyer
 
I want the car.
 
How do I weasel out of the $599 when I pick it u?
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Re: Help, I made a mistake! [jamesd1057] by exb0
Nov 21, 2006 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: jamesd1057 (Nov 20, 2006 9:49 pm)

How do I weasel out of the $599 when I pick it u?
 
Easy, just call the dealer and tell them that you never agreed on those bogus junk fees, and to either remove those fees or return your deposit. If they refuse, tell them that you will file a complaint with the local Consumer Affairs and call your credit company to reverse the charges. They can’t keep your deposit if you haven’t signed anything agreeing to that price.
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Re: Help, I made a mistake! [exb0] by mikefm58
Nov 21, 2006 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: exb0 (Nov 21, 2006 6:08 am)

He might be stuck as there usually is some fine print in Autotrader ads. If he paid via credit card, then yes, stil disupute the charge, even if it was credit card via Paypal.
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Re: Shoot... [cccompson] by audia8q
Nov 21, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Nov 11, 2006 2:00 pm)

Six percent (Ohio's sales tax rate) of the extra $220.00 is a helluva lot less than the extra $220.00 each dealer pockets on each sale.
 
of course its less, so what is your point?....do the math based on the number of sales in Ohio and add it up. You will see that the increase will bring in a dump truck filled with money to the states coffers...since the dealer is doing all the work for the revenue and the state is doing nothing, why shouldn't the dealer make the majority of the increase?. Remember, the voters could get rid of it if they put enough pressure of the legislature. pretty simple...
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Re: Shoot... [audia8q] by cccompson
Dec 10, 2006 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Nov 21, 2006 8:08 am)

My point was that the increase in tax revenue is a mere pittance compared to the windfall the dealers have garnered.
 
However, your point is well taken - raising the fee certainly didn't work against the interests of the state.
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Ohio Documentation Fee by buckeyelarry
Dec 30, 2006 (1:34 pm)
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Interesting history on documentation fee - agree it primarily benefits the dealer.
 
Anyone out there get the fee waived - or reduced to less than $100 on new car purchase?
 
I'm in finally stages of negoiations - to assure no surprises I requested a pro forma invoice for the purchase. I was not totally surprised to see the documentation fee. However it will be a point to be negoiated prior to purchase as in my written proposal to the dealer, not included. Dealer will need to adjust price or provide a service of value.
 
Curious as to others experience in this area.
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Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by ppborceb
Dec 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm)

I have NEVER paid a doc fee!
When they tried to add it to the contract, and I saw it I said reduce the cost of the car by the doc fee and then you can add it back in on the contract, otherwise it's a deal breaker, and I don't buy the car.
So far this has always worked... good luck.
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Re: Ohio Documentation Fee [buckeyelarry] by bobst
Dec 30, 2006 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: buckeyelarry (Dec 30, 2006 1:34 pm)

"Curious as to others experience in this area."
 
A lot of us make Out-the-Door (OTD) offers which include all of the fees we feel like paying - taxes, transportation, tags, etc. If we don't feel like paying a Doc fee, we don't include it in our OTD offer.
 
When we purchased an Accord in 2005, we offered $20700 OTD. They accepted, so we wrote them a check for that amount and drove the new car home.
 
That's how we avoid worrying about a Doc fee.

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