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Replying to: mow (Mar 13, 2006 2:21 pm) Once you have determined what kind of vehicle you want, do some research and determine the OTD price you choose to offer. Then offer that amount and see if they accept. There is no point asking a dealer how much their vehicle costs. Instead, tell them how much you are willing to pay out-the-door.
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Replying to: bobst (Mar 13, 2006 2:28 pm) That isn't the case, as stated, all dealers here have a $699 fee--doesn't go into detail just a printed amount. Might be 299 in Texas or elsewhere. As I said the TMV was listed as 24,392--is that including fees? If not how much do you add on for that? If I would have gone for the TMV plus paid say $200 in fees, it would have cost me $1200 bad advice. Let's just say here in Fl. TMV for a Titan MSRP 29,135 is 22,700 + tax, tag, title and $699 fee. Now you have a TRUE, TRUE market value OTD price. Websites such as Edmunds, Carsdirect and Consumer Reports give some good information but ALL have a flaw--the prices they state DO NOT include for dealer fees which vary by hundreds. In fact they don't even mention a roundabout price for fees on top of the TMV price.
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Replying to: mow (Mar 13, 2006 6:01 pm) If the doc fee is not too bad, say under 250 dollars, then I would just pay it and move on but otherwise work that into your negotiation. |
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Replying to: cutehumor (Mar 13, 2006 6:42 am) Consider the fee part of the total cost of the vehicle when you compare to others. |
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I bought a car at Rosenthal Honda in Tysons Corner several years ago and they clearly disclosed their $299 (I think) Doc fee - on a sign about twenty feet up on a wall where no one normally looks. I guess it was there so the sales person could point to it and convince the buyer the fee in non-negotiable. Incidentally, I like the Rosenthal chain of Honda stores in Northern Virginia. Our family has bought five cars from them and all of the deals have been very smooth. |
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When they put at the bottom TMV price on Edmunds for example 24,392 on Titan Crew---is that their price including dealer fees or are they saying that price + dealer fees. Wouldn't they or any other site be better off saiying OTD prices which include fees?
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Replying to: mow (Mar 14, 2006 5:47 pm) A person who can't use the info on Edmunds plus some local knowledge to calculate an OTD price isn't trying very.
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Replying to: bobst (Mar 14, 2006 7:33 pm) 
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In my area of Syracuse NY nissan is offering $2800 rebate and 1% 60 month financing on the titan..... But still the nagging trim and brake problems even on the 06s I see posted here, titantalk and elsewhere scare me! Good luck and proceed with caution ! The best deals on a titan are the used ones.............. |
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Replying to: mow (Mar 14, 2006 8:50 pm) When we were ready to buy our Honda last March, I figured I would have to pay about $200 over invoice. However, one poster in Prices Paid said he got his for $500 under invoice. I found that hard to believe, so we went to the local dealer, offered $500 under invoice, and they accepted. Therefore, the info on Edmunds saved us $700. |
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