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Replying to: raybear (Mar 08, 2006 3:41 am) I'm sure that Raybear was just pulling your leg, because he must know that anyone can get a list of dealer and customer incentives right here at Edmunds, free of charge. |
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Replying to: socala4 (Mar 08, 2006 7:17 am)
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Replying to: socala4 (Mar 08, 2006 7:17 am) Yeah, but Edmunds isn't always up on the factory to dealer stuff. |
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Mar 08, 2006 7:21 am) Actually, Edmunds missed all the Subaru programs.
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Replying to: raybear (Mar 09, 2006 3:40 am)  I'm not a part of the team that puts these together, and I'm sure they're not comprehensive and complete; thus, it's always good to check multiple sources!
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this pontiac dealer I got an internet quote said "every car bought here has a $299 doc processing fee" bargain down? sounds excessive for paper. I'm buying my first brand new car. so any tips to get them to get rid of it would help
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Replying to: cutehumor (Mar 13, 2006 6:42 am) In these parts, the dealers in Northern VA will charge whatever they can get away with. I've seen some as high as $299++ IIRC. MD caps it at around $100. My strategy has always been to not pay it, but I don't tell the salesman that. As an example, if I figure out I want to buy a car for xxx (and the doc fee is 299) I will offer xxx-299 and see where it goes from there. I'll probably wind up paying some kind of doc fee, but not a lot. I try not to stress over it. I've never understood why this is charged anyway. It's just another sore point in the process and I always thought it was included in the price of a car as a cost of doing business. After all, when you buy a couch at Macy's, do they charge you a fee to write the ticket up? All in all, this is not something to get super worked up over. Do what you're comfortable with.
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Replying to: jhs70 (Mar 13, 2006 10:31 am) I strongly advise against keeping ANYTHING a secret. Tell the salesperson upfront that you do not feel comfortable with some of the fees. I bet they will me much more flexible. The alternative is much less professional and encourages playing games. And we ALL want to avoid games. THE MORE HONEST YOU ARE, THE BETTER THE DEAL WILL FEEL!!!!!! |
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Replying to: jhs70 (Mar 13, 2006 10:31 am) You think it is much? try $599 at your friendly Toyota dealer in Tampa (actually - all of them in the are - Scion website requires them to put it on, so all of them have exactly the same amount in the entire Bay area). I also saw some domestics in that neighborhood as well. Actually when I think about it, $300 fee is alreadny "customary and reasonable"  . Just another scam to make you think you are buying "at invoice"  .
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For those few who say don't worry about the fees, just get the OTD price you want---well the problem there is only the seller knows what the true OTD price is including Tax, title, tag and fees. According to Edmunds and Carsdirect, the truck I wanted should cost 24,392TMV and CD 24,323 respectively. Now you say take that deal and don't worry about the fees. Well the first dealer I called quoted me at 23,417---so using your logic I should have jumped and not worried about the fees.(BTW all dealers in the area charge 699 for fees). Next dealer said 23,200 same fees---last 1 I called said we'll beat anybody by 300-500---sure enough 22,700 for an invoice of 26,273 and MSRP of 29,135 for my Titan. So what happens is besides the TMV and CD prices being high to start, they don't include the fees(which vary from 200-699 or more) but you guys say don't worry about the fees. Only good for the seller as it would have cost me about 1,600 your way--no wonder that is what you recommend!
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