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#21 of 667 tboner - by zueslewis Oct 30, 2002 (2:22 pm)
there is a difference between a "doc fee" and "registration fees". Each state usually has standard registration fees - in PA, it's 33.00 for the title, 22.50 for plates, 5.00 tire tax and 12.75 if you have the dealer do the registration on-line. The doc fee is simply a charge that allows the dealer to recoup money and is usually linked to the "pack" - money set aside out of each car deal's profit for administrative costs.   In my opinion, based on my experience, if a dealer charges more than $30-40 for a doc fee, it's just another way to grab profit. There's nothing wrong with profit, but hiding it in an administrative fee that IS NOT A PART OF STATE REGISTRATION AND TAX FEES is just wrong. There's plenty of money to be made in the car business the legitimate way - no sense in scamming folks.
#22 of 667 zueslewis by tboner Oct 30, 2002 (2:52 pm)
I think we are saying the same thing. We just used different words.   Obviously yours are more clear to me than mine are to (and probably others)   Cheers,   TB Autocross This
#23 of 667 Somebody say autocross? by zueslewis Oct 30, 2002 (3:15 pm)
I have to fight the urge to slalom cones in a construction zone!!
#24 of 667 Zeuslewis by tboner Oct 30, 2002 (8:19 pm)
I did that once at 3:30AM after a service call. The customer has become a friend of mine, so we went to the local Denny's for a bite to eat. We went through a four lane undivided section of road with two lanes blocked off by barrels.   Well, let's just say the Buick with a trunk full of tools and parts doesn't do too bad.   Of course, nothing like my SVT Contour, however.   Didn't pay doc fees on either, BTW.   TB
#25 of 667 I race against a prepped SVT Contour by zueslewis Oct 30, 2002 (8:38 pm)
at Nazareth in E Street Prepared. He's very smooth and very fast.
#26 of 667 tb by audia8q Oct 31, 2002 (6:43 am)
get this...here in CT we have a computer right in our dealership that is connected to the motor vehcile department...we can issue hard plates and do the transfers, name changes, etc... right in the office....but for this privledge we pay the state apx $15K per year in fees, just for this system, and still have to send a runner with the actual paperwork to the Motor vehicle department daily. Plus...we must charge a $40 emissions fee per car sold for an state emission program that shut down and does not exist...but you get a nice colorful sticker. talk about a scam!
#27 of 667 Rich by tboner Oct 31, 2002 (6:53 am)
Like I've always said, it is sad when the government makes more on a sale than a business with capital at risk.   TB Pro profit, anti large government, thinks he is a Smart Shopper.
#28 of 667 AUDIA 8 by sonjaab Oct 31, 2002 (10:10 am)
Some of the mega dealers here in NY have the same deal. Plates and 'puter to print out reg. and stickers. No running to the DMV. Iwonder how much it costs them ? But like I said on all the GM employee deals on the 10 cars we bought this year 20bucks doc fees tho...........geo
#29 of 667 Like I said by alfox Oct 31, 2002 (10:17 am)
I don't care if it's $20 or $200, as long as the bottom line is the right price. Whether the dealer package his profit in the doc fee or on the selling price I could care less. As long as I'm paying market price on the car at the bottom line he can do what he wants.
#30 of 667 Alfox by kkollwitz Oct 31, 2002 (11:52 am)
was right at the beginning, and he is still right. Pay no attention to any number but the OTD (out the door) price.

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