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#498 of 547 moparbad.... [jazzbeau]
Jan 25, 2008 (7:01 pm)
Where do you drive your truck in this country? Those of us complaining about frame damage are mostly in the snow belt where large amounts of salt are used on the roads. There is absolutely no reason for a frame to rot out before the exhaust system which is subjected to severe corrosion due to heat and exposure to those same chemicals. The exhaust is 1/5th the thickness of the frame and the frame does not see the heat that accelerates the corrosion. One thing good about US vehicles is the fact that they have better rust and corrosion protection than any Toyota truck has from 98-99-00 model years. The Toyota bodies are great. Again, 1/8th the thickness of the frame with nearly zero rust. Drive trains work perfectly. Put 500# in the bed and the truck folds in half! Many of the reports here are from people who took their trucks in for exhaust work and the frame collapsed on the lift!!! This is not acceptable and shows poor quality of materials used in their construction. My 17 year old VW did rust out in the same environment with 175K miles so why are Toyota truck frames so vulnerable from these 3 years of production? How many do we have to show you before you decide there is an issue with them? I found two on ebay last month for sale with rotted frames but immaculate bodies. People who sell their Tacoma's on ebay seem to always mention the fact that their truck has a "solid frame" so that tells you there is a general concensus that a problem exists and buyer beware.
#499 of 547 98 Toyota Tacoma Truck - Frame Rotted before exhaust!!!!!
Jan 25, 2008 (7:22 pm)
I will be swapping the frame on my 98 Toyota Tacoma this summer and will document the procedure and post the link here so if you find yourself in my situation, you will be able to see what is involved and what it might cost. Most used frames run $800-$1200 plus freight if they have to ship it to you. Other items come up in the cost because you cannot get parts off the old, rusted frame and have to replace hardware and cables/brake lines, etc. to finish the job. You also should take the frame to a frame shop to have it checked/straightened before installing it. Another $250-$400. I figure it will be 3 or 4 weekends to do the complete swap with a helper and an overhead A-frame lift to move the bed, cabin, and drive train parts. Stay tuned. If you know of such a website already, let me know so I can preview it. The dealer figures $6000 for such a swap, no additional parts!!
#500 of 547 Engine Noise at 2500 rpm on V6
Feb 03, 2008 (12:31 pm)
I'll be a new owner of a 2001 Tacoma DCab V6 4speed automatic this week. I noticed during the test drive that on the highway, engine noise increased considerably during acceleration through 2500 rpm, but then it decreased after reaching 70mph, when I eased off the accelerator. Is this just normal downshifting? Is the engine noise normal as well?
#501 of 547 2001 xtra cab 4x4 2.7L
Feb 24, 2008 (5:05 pm)
I just purchased a 2001 Xtracab 4x4 2.7L automatic with 85,000 miles on it. The frame and the rest of the truck is perfect but the Carfax did show it to be owned in Tennessee for its life. I live near Tampa, FL (inland not near salt water) so it will never see snow or saltwater. I shopped around for quite awhile before I purchased this one. It is my first Toyota. I bought it specifically because of reliability. It is immaculate. On the highway it did spark knock a little bit and I notice that you can feel the engine vibration when stopped. Is this normal? The owner’s manual did say that slight spark knock is normal but excessive knock requires service. I compare this truck to our 2003 Honda Element EX AWD which is also a 4 cylinder with 83,000 miles on it. Both have similar acceleration (none) and poor fuel expected fuel economy (low 20s). The Element never ever spark knocks and you only feel engine vibration with the AC running. I will change the plugs on the Taco this weekend to see if this helps. Should I run 89 octane in it to eliminate the spark knocks? By the way the engine looks brand new with new belts and hoses and a new air filter. Thanks for your suggestions.
#502 of 547 Re: 2001 xtra cab 4x4 2.7L [cmiles97]
Feb 24, 2008 (5:30 pm)
Here we go again! Why do so many people complain about low 20's mpg when they are driving a 4 WD vehicle that has so much more weight than a comparable model with 2 WD?? Dang not all cars can get 30-35+ MPG, especially hauling the extra weight of 4 wd. I have A 2000 Tacoma 4WD with the 2.7 and a 5 spd. I've never heard a spark knock to date. Try checking the motor's timing, and also, check the gap on the plugs.. they could be way off. I've only felt engine vibration with the A/C on but it has never been excessive. 89 Octane may help but it's an expensive fix over time. BTW, I get 24.5 mpg at 60-65 but it drops to 23.5 when above those speeds. I get 19.5 - 20 mpg during daily driving on the I-5 Corridor in the North State area of California. This by far has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned in my near 56 years I had an '89 Corolla that was a very close second. It had 186K when I sold it. I can't compare the 2 until the Tacoma has similar mileage so a close second is the verdict. Thanks!
#503 of 547 Re: 2001 xtra cab 4x4 2.7L [jazzbeau]
Feb 25, 2008 (2:30 pm)
The reason I was surprised at the lack of fuel economy was my 2005 Dodge Ram quad cab with a 5.7-liter "Hemi" V8 that provides 345 hp and 375 lb-ft of torque and weighed 4906lbs (non 4x4) averaged 16.3 mpg. This was before MDS was included in 2006. The Tacoma weighs 3470lbs with a 2.7L engine making 150hp and 177lb-ft averages 19.5 mpg. It only gets 3 mpg more than the dodge that outweighs it by 1400lbs and is a much broader/taller truck.
Our 2003 Honda Element EX AWD weighs 3577lbs with a 2.4L 160HP/ 161 lb-ft averages 23mpg and it has the aerodynamics of a brick plus weighs 100lb more than our Tacoma yet averages almost 4mpg better.
I traded the Ram in for a 2006 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 that weighs 4260lbs with a 425hp/ 420lb-ft Hemi and it is averaging 17.3 mpg. The Tacoma is only 2mpg better than this?
Now don't get me wrong I bought the Tacoma based upon its reliability/longevity ratings and am happy with it so far. I was just surprised that it was worse on gas than our Element box on wheels and not a whole lot better than both high powered Dodges. I will be switching to synthetic oil next to see if that makes a difference. All of the other vehicles above are using it.
#504 of 547 Re: 2001 xtra cab 4x4 2.7L [cmiles97]
Feb 25, 2008 (5:33 pm)
Hi! I understand your confusion regarding the differences in mileage. One thing to note is that weight to power ratio is way in favor of the Dodge. The Dodge has 14 HP per pound compared to 23 HP per pound for the Yota. 4906/345=14, 3470/150=23. Gearing is another factor to weigh in. When I was a kid, 10-12? y/o? we had a '55 Cadillac that weighed as much or more than your Dodge, it had a 270HP 2, 4 barrel carb. set up and consistently got in the low 20's on the road. It's a weird thing I know. I never saw a significant difference with synthetic oils in my experience.. Amzoil, Mobil 1 etc, etc. One thing that will help your Yota is a K&N intake set up but it will take a while to pay for itself.. but 2-3 yrs down the road it will help. I'd just not worry about any kind of big mpg increase, It's not going to happen ! Take care and thanks for your response
#505 of 547 Re: 98 Toyota Tacoma Truck - Frame Rotted before exhaust!!!!! [tmiller159]
Feb 28, 2008 (1:55 pm)
Where did you find a used frame? I have a 2001 Tacoma with a clean body and solid engine and transmission. The rear end of the frame is completely rusted out and I am thinking of putting it back on a solid frame for my son. None of the salvage yards near me have anything and I haven't been able to find anything on-line. New frames from Toyota are $3600. Rather not spend that much.
#506 of 547 98 Toyota Tacoma Truck - Frame Rotted before exhaust!!!!! [jwoody61]
Mar 01, 2008 (4:31 pm)
I have not found a frame yet but they are out there. I am saving up the money to do it first. The expense is in the freight charges to get it from whoever has it to you. There are a number of Toyota Truck recyclers on Google. Look for a light rollover and you will be good to go.
Mar 04, 2008 (3:58 am)
I have a 02 Tacoma. Just wondering how to get the spark plugs off? The driver side pulls right off, but the passenger side looks like there is a harness to. Any suggestions?