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Re: RUSTED FRAME RAILS / 97 TACOMA EXT CAB [wtwolfe] by xmk23x
Dec 30, 2006 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: wtwolfe (May 05, 2006 4:34 am)

I just bought a 98 tacoma with 149k, used from the want advertiser. i took it to the auto body shop to get undercoated and when they put it up on the lift,it almost broke in half. both frame rails rotted through really bad. the frame buckled on the lift. I'm totaly screwed out of 5000$. Any suggestions? small claims court?
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Re: RUSTED FRAME RAILS / 97 TACOMA EXT CAB [stone45] by tmiller159
Jan 03, 2007 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: stone45 (Dec 18, 2006 5:07 pm)

I have a 99 Tacoma 4x4 that I just bought. I noticed while installing a set of SuperSprings, that the frame had some serious rust holes in it over the axle, and upon closer inspection by a long time Tacoma owner, found numerous steel plates welded to the frame to beef it up. It is one ugly mess under all that rustproofing. I filed a safety complaint with the NHTSA. You can look it up on their web site. It is OSI Number (complaint #) 10177454. You can file your own complaint with the NHTSA at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
and I encourage everyone with rusted frame issues to do so in order to gain enough attention to warrant a safety investigation. Maybe we can get justice through the back door since Toyota seems uninterested in doing anything about it themselves. I am going on other Toyota Owner web sites to make the same request.
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Re: K-nock by chagasi
Jan 22, 2007 (1:26 pm)
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I know this has been addressed, but what is the consensus. I have a 2000 prerunner, 4-cyl, 95Kmiles and when the weather is slightly cold, the engine knocks for a minute or two? Dealer says they can't find it and everything computers OK. I have added some STP-fuel stuff once in awhile and it seems to help for a bit. Any new thoughts on this?
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Toyota's dirty little rust problem by 2004taco
Jan 23, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: stingray3 (Dec 28, 2006 5:45 pm)

Back in the 80's my grandfather bought a new Toyota truck and the frame rusted all the way thru like this also.
 
The problem with Toyota's back then was the simple fact that Japan has no natural iron/steel resources and has to import steel to manufacture their products. The explanation back then was that Japanese auto makers basically [chose to] take recycled steel (from crushed autos and such) from the U.S. and other countries to obtain the necessary metal. The problem with using recycled (crushed autos and such) is that the process if far from perfect and a percentage of rust remains in the metal (steel) that is melted down and reformed into "new" frames, parts, etc...
 
It's plausible that Toyota products still suffer from this as even the products "manufactured" outside of Japan are really only assembled in other countries from parts sent over from Japan (which again, has no natural iron/steel).
 
I revisited this forum because of a problem with tire wear, but these rust posts reminded me of when I bought my 2004 taco. A few weeks after I purchased it I showed the Toyota service manager what I thought was excessive rust on the springs under the truck that supports the reer wheels and was told "that is normal." I know such springs rust easily, but they should have not been showing such rust so early on from purchase. IMHO the parts were rusted when the truck was assembled.
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Crap for gas milage by nzcar8
Feb 07, 2007 (10:03 am)
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I just bought a 2004 4X4 Tacoma 2.7 automatic w/Air.
 I WANT BETTER MILEAGE!!
Please help with u'r input. so far I herd of synthetic oil & better air filter. Now what else can I do.
 It gets 20 MPG
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Re: Crap for gas milage [nzcar8] by tmiller159
Feb 14, 2007 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: nzcar8 (Feb 07, 2007 10:03 am)

i have a 1999 version of your vehicle. I get the same mileage. It gets worse if you switch the transmission to the mode which makes it shift at higher RPM points.(17 MPG) It gets really worse if you drive at 75MPH on the freeway! (15 MPG) Ain't nothin' you can do. I too did the AMSOIL synlubes everywhere-engine, F&R diffs, XFR case, auto tranny. Only the air filter is stock. Bummer. 4x4 is nice though.
TEMiller
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Re: RUSTED FRAME RAILS / 97 TACOMA EXT CAB [tmiller159] by berdman21
Mar 01, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: tmiller159 (Jan 03, 2007 7:20 pm)

I also have a 1999 Toyota XtraCab pickup with the rusted frame problem. I purchased the truck in 9/2000 with 10,000 miles on it. It has been well taken care of and the body is in great shape. I went to the Toyota Dealer where it was purchased and the Body Shop Manager told me he has not seen anything like this before. He suggested that I call Toyota customer care so I did. They said that they would like to send a representative out to look at the frame.
 
I also made a report to the NHTSA on their website. Hopefully if enough people report this, toyota will take action.
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Re: RUSTED FRAME RAILS / 97 TACOMA EXT CAB [berdman21] by berdman21
Mar 05, 2007 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: berdman21 (Mar 01, 2007 9:14 am)

UPDATE: Toyota will do nothing, and says that it is not their problem. Lovely, now what?
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Re: RUSTED FRAME RAILS / 97 TACOMA EXT CAB [berdman21] by tmiller159
Mar 06, 2007 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: berdman21 (Mar 05, 2007 11:56 am)

File with the NHTSA per my previous email. Include the above at the end of your safety related complaint.

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