Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 1:18 AM
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#933 of 1373 Re: ODD NOISES [dgower78]
Sep 13, 2005 (6:05 pm)
I also have an odd noise that seems to come from the passenger rear of my 2003 KIA Sedona. On my van it creates two types of noises. 1st it sounds like a crotch rocket motorcycle passing on the passenger side the a few seconds later it sounds sort of like a kids kazoo or one of those slide flutes. As you stated, no loss of performance but happens most often during air conditioner use.
#934 of 1373 Re: New Sedona owner here! [rightjaw]
Sep 15, 2005 (5:24 am)
Brand new (less than 150 miles!) 05 Sedona we had our "check engine light" come on, too. Dealer service told us it was an emission control fuel system pressure sensor and claimed at first it was from a loose gas cap, then said it was a faulty sensor and supposedly replaced the sensor after having the van two days waiting for parts. BUT - he told my wife it was only a $10 part, but they still didn't have any. (Funny, when I checked with some garages and parts stores, the same type of sensor for other cars costs around $200!) Now, curiously, our tank was at about the 3/4 mark when that happened. Service writer also told us it might be caused by "topping up" the tank after the pump shut off. The only fill done on this car was the original full tank we got from the dealer. It would seem such a defect in part/programming would show up immediately at the pump if this was the cause? I ALWAYS top up a tank to at least round-off the charge, and I've done this with every vehicle I own and every vehicle I rent for business. I have NEVER seen this happen on another emisiion-controlled vehicle! It would be a stupid design fault and all the grounds in the world to use the "Lemon Law" if it continues.
#935 of 1373 Re: Mileage and other problems [bluedevils]
Sep 15, 2005 (8:58 pm)
I was wrong on 2 counts! My Sedona EX is a 2004, and the window sticker in hand says 16 city and 22 hwy. The estimated annual fuel cost is $1168.00 I wonder what price per gallon that is -- surely not $2.99 a gallon!!
#936 of 1373 Re: Mileage and other problems [boxwrench]
Sep 16, 2005 (5:45 am)
yep - surely not $2.99 per gallon!
#937 of 1373 Hankook tire pressure
Sep 16, 2005 (6:16 am)
OEM Hankooks on our new 05 Sedona LX. Normal loads (family of four) and normal speeds (70-or-so highway). No trailer. Any suggestions on tire pressures or just go with the recommended inflation in the manual and on the tag? Anyone having any luck with better mileage with different pressures? I mean - within safe inflation range for the load and speed of course.
These OEM 215/70's just look SMALL for this heavy a vehicle. I like the look of the tread design though. Anyone have experience with these Hankooks in bad weather - especially snow? How about hydroplaning?
Just got this car back from the emission control fuel pressure sensor replacement at 150 miles. Seems okay for now but we're still on the full tank delivered with the car fresh from service. It'll be interesting to see what happens at 3/4 gauge or fill-up. I'll report what does happen, or doesn't.
Sure would love to see "Kiatech" back on here - that person sure knew the right stuff!
#938 of 1373 Re: New Sedona owner here! [fortyfiver]
Sep 18, 2005 (6:25 pm)
I don't know about it being "all the grounds in the world". Lemon laws usually cite a major defect as cause for invoking the law. A simple thing like a door rattle or intermittent buzzer would probably not suffice. However your check engine light may indicate something serious and you could argue that it needs to be fixed so that you know when something major is wrong. Some laws can be invoked if the vehicle is off the road for a specified amount of time due to various defects. You might investigate this aspect of your states lemon law. You might also get an opinion from your attorney general's office as to what kind of defects they consider lemon-law worthy. In any case, start logging all phone calls and keep good records of the amount time your car is off the road. Get your ducks in a row so to speak
#939 of 1373 Re: 2005 Sedona Owner - new to post [gemini1]
Sep 18, 2005 (6:35 pm)
does your state have lemon law?
#940 of 1373 Re: 2005 Sedona Owner - new to post [mcase2]
Sep 19, 2005 (2:40 am)
Yes, we have a Lemon Law.
One nagging problem or returning problem that isn't cured can be used. Also a series of problems left un-repaired can qualify. Like others, and fair enough, there is an amount of lost time and number of incidents. It's actually about the same as most states with such a law.
Yes - we are documenting any repairs, but I do that with any vehicle.
Look - EVERY manufacturer has some issue or issues right now. (Anyone care to talk about the Mazda M5?) Cars are VERY complicated machines. So I know there will be little annoyances. As long as the ARE fixed by a dealer, properly and timely, that isn't any problem for me until they have the car more than I do. (Had a Jeep like that once!) Or it lets me down at a time when I really need it.
My problem here was the dealer handing over this car, after all we had to go through to get the paperwork correct and get the dealer-prep done, with that indicator light on. Some dolt somewhere during the process should have seen that as he drove it up to the door, running? But then, "Lot Boys" are generally not way up on the skills ladder.
We will see. It gets a fair chance now, as fair as we can give it, but it is "on the block" and probably will be trade-bait even at a pretty big loss.
On some manufacturers' cars, a loose or leaking gas-filler cap CAN cause the trouble light to come on, and tightening the cap and driving a while CAN reset the code. Not a defect - just the way the system was designed. It could be that the cure was in the 50 or so miles they put on the car while they had it, waiting for a part. But they should at least state that verbally AND on the service receipt. Nothing in the owner's manual indicates the loose cap would cause the warning light or that topping up the tank will cause it. Nothing there states it might go away in a while of driving. Of course, on the side of safety, they advise taking it into a dealer for a checkup.
#941 of 1373 Re: Kia Sedona LX 2005 - Brake Noise [pepperstlc]
Sep 20, 2005 (2:32 pm)
I can honestly say I feel your pain!! We bought a 2003 Sedona and it has been in the shop EIGHT times in 27 months. It just got out Friday 9/16 and will be going in again within the next week. I have read the messages on this board with interest as they address the same issues we have had...Radio/CD player that for no reason goes up and down in volume, brake problems that KIA service states is not a problem but was identified by a certified mechanic as warped rotors (from the day we drove it off the lot), loose molding pieces, undiagnosed steering problem (knocking, binding, etc) broken motor mounts and not to be outdone a blown engine at 30,000 miles!!
We do all required service on our van and the blown engine was 110 miles into a family vacation. When we had it towed to a dealer to replace the engine they stated this was the third '03 Sedona they had seen with a thrown rod and all the issues accompanying that event.
We fought with the dealer to service the vehicle correctly all this time and we still were denied the claim the brakes were bad from the factory.
I have talked to a few mechanics and warped rotors and stuck pins are two known problems with Kia Sedona brake systems. Keep fighting the dealer to repair the brakes until they are to your satisfaction. Also, document ALL your complaints with names, dates, etc. Our dealer here in Portland, OR only seems to document half of what we bring the van in for.
Good luck on the brake issue. I would suggest calling the Kia Motors factory rep at 800-333-4542. Brian is at ext 45782 and he is good to work with. Every time you have an issue with the dealer call him or his co-workers and have them "babysit" the repair before and after you take it into the dealer.
#942 of 1373 Re: OIL&MPG [bluecar3]
Sep 20, 2005 (2:36 pm)
I have used synthetic oil since we got our '03 Sedona and the MPG still sucks. 12 in the city and maybe 18-20 on the highway.