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#2977 of 3341 Re: Cautious buyer in GA. [navyguy1990]
Dec 15, 2009 (7:57 am)
Hello, navyguy. Sorry to hear that you and many others have had so many problems. I have a 2002 Passat, 1.8T, and it has been a generally good vehicle, although I have had various electrical issues as well, e.g., CEL light has come on many times. I wanted to let you know that the coil issues are rampant with the early 2000s 1.8T, and a "Voluntary Emissions Service Action, Ignition Coil Inspection/Replacement recall (#28F3/P1) was initiated by VW some time ago. As part of this action, VW also agrees to "...review your reimbursement request", which I assume to mean that they will reimburse you for previous replacement with proper repair/replacement documentation. You can access further information and reimbursement request forms at www.vwcoils.com. Give it a shot. vwdawg/audiphile1
#2978 of 3341 Re: Cautious buyer in GA. [vwdawg]
Dec 15, 2009 (9:10 am)
I know problems are out there, but my 2002 1.8t has been fantastic. 131k miles and still going strong. However, the problem with buying one used and several years old, as someone mentioned, is that you can't inspect a lot of things, ie, conditions inside the engine. I've used Mobil 1 0-40 and the big Mann oil filters since I bought it certified used in 2004 w/ 30k miles, and I don't let it get a tick over 5k miles between changes. If the car has run for several years on conventional oil and/or not been maintained properly, you could have sludge problems and other issues developing that will be expensive to fix. On these cars, you have to be willing to do or pay for the right service, -- no $15 Walmart oil changes.
As far as coils go, I've had 2 replaced on a recall several years ago. A third went out on me last year, but the car still ran well enough to get to Auto Zone where they ran a scan and identified the dead coil. About $25 and literally one minute to install and I was back on the road. That is really the only 'problem' i've had with my car.
Every time I ride in my father in law's Camry, I'm reminded of how much I like my VW. But like I said above, you have to be willing to invest a little more time/money in service and maintenance. If that isn't you, you should buy something else.
#2979 of 3341 Re: Cautious buyer in GA. [tsf7]
Dec 15, 2009 (10:09 am)
From my records, I've spent $3,152 in maintenance, not including tires, and $675 in oil changes (which I've had done at the dealership since I didn't want any disputes shuld the engine sludge). I could have saved maybe $300 if I had done the oil changes myself, but I consider it cheap insurance given the alternative (and I treat my oil change receipts like they are the Dead Sea Scrolls).
VWDawg and tsf7 - just curious, do you guys routinely recommend buying a Passat to your friends/families?
#2980 of 3341 Re: Cautious buyer in GA. [vwdawg]
Dec 15, 2009 (4:04 pm)
I'm a car guy and I certainly agree with all the enthusiasts that the Passat is a much better ride than a Camry or an Accord, but the exhilaration of driving a finely tuned machine is immediately sapped out of you when these unexpected maintenance issues rear their ugly heads. Having been stranded twice by my car in less than two years, I'm dearly holding on to the belief that this car is much safer than the Korean used cars available in Seoul. That's been the only saving grace, but there's no way in hell I'll let my now 15-year old daughter eventually inherit this car from me, like I've had originally planned.
#2981 of 3341 Re: Cautious buyer in GA. [altair4]
Dec 16, 2009 (9:26 am)
Hi altair4: To answer your question, after owning my '02 1.8T Passat for 3 1/2 years, I would say "no", I would not recommend the Passat to a friend or family member. Despite my statement that it has been a "generally dependable car" (never left me stranded anywhere), I think the trials and tribulations of owning one outweigh the benefits. No major issues, just a lot of annoying electrical stuff (CEL light seems to be on more than it's off). I do all the work that I am capable of, and fortunately one of my good Audifreak friends has a VAG so I can diagnose problems pretty quickly. I did have the standard coil issues...not a big deal, but before I knew what was going on, that cost me a cat converter ($700). Kraut cars are known for their engineering, but sometimes I believe they are "over-engineered", which adds a lot of unnecessary complexity. The chronic issues with the German cars for me have been electrical, windows, wheel bearings, suspension, and timing belts. I have also expressed concerns on the forum about oil sludge...I would never buy a used 1.8T unless the seller had all service records which confirmed synthetic oil use. In summary, I would say that VWs and Audis are wonderful cars to drive and have great styling, but they're expensive to run. They are best suited to a person who can spend $40,000+ on a new one or $30,000 or more on a one- or two-year old, well maintained vehicle, then sell it after the warranty runs out (or buy an extended warranty). These cars work for me, but only because I do most of my own work. I don't know how many more I will buy, but then again, I don't get too excited about driving most of the Asian cars...dependable, smooth but BORING. vwdawg/audiphile1
#2982 of 3341 cyl 3 mis fire code
Dec 26, 2009 (6:07 pm)
2002 vw passast, heard a pop from underneath car, check engine light came on, & car started running rough, (like missing on 1 cyl), code machine at auto zone said cyl 3 mis fire.
Dec 27, 2009 (12:02 pm)
2005 Passat Station Wagon Diesel - I need to change the brake light. It is the lower on the driver side of the car. Can anyone point me to a step by step guide with photos.
#2986 of 3341 Re: cyl 3 mis fire code [theron1]
Dec 28, 2009 (11:09 am)
theron: I think shiftright has it right...almost for sure a coil problem. You didn't say which engine you have, but the 1.8T "coil on plug" coils have had major problems, and there is a recall for diagnosis and coil replacement at no charge to you. Call your dealer for a recall visit. One word of caution...do NOT drive your car for an extended period with this problem...could ruin your cat converter. In other words, get it fixed asap. vwdawg