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#2927 of 2966 timing belt by krzyss Aug 26, 2009 (11:18 am)
VW did not post time requirement for its change, unluckily. I know one car (I think 2000) that had 80K miles (so theoretically below 105K limit) and its belt broke.   I think that you should consider a change next year but could you ask service center to inspect it?   Krzys Replies to this message: navyguy1990 (Aug 26, 2009 4:57 pm) altair4 (Aug 27, 2009 5:59 am) navyguy1990 (Aug 28, 2009 5:45 pm)
#2928 of 2966 Re: timing belt [krzyss] by navyguy1990 Aug 26, 2009 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: krzyss (Aug 26, 2009 11:18 am) Krzys, Thank you for your thoughts. I'll ask them to inspect the timing belt next time I take the car in. Is there any way I can check the transmission fluid level? I was told that the transmission fluid was suppose to last the lifetime of the car, but in light of slight quirks with the transmission shifting roughtly I don't know if I should get the transmission fluid changed out.   Navy Guy
#2929 of 2966 Re: timing belt [krzyss] by altair4 Aug 27, 2009 (5:59 am)
Replying to: krzyss (Aug 26, 2009 11:18 am) Krzyss's advice is good, I think. I'm in the same spot as you are - 2003 lower mileage vehicle. I think I'm going to look for a deal on the timing belt, water pump, drive belts, and tensioners this fall. I'm at 63,000 miles.   I've had the belt looked at during inspections, but I still don't trust the dang thing. It's so expensive if you crash the valves with the pistions!   I've got nothing better to add about your rough shifting. Did it start right after you had the TCM changed? Or was it later? Maybe corrosion on the connections? The level can only be checked from under the car - no dipstick (deleting a dipstick is the stupidest thing I've seen on this car). Do you have any indication of a transmission leak? Replies to this message: navyguy1990 (Aug 28, 2009 5:45 pm)
#2930 of 2966 Re: timing belt [altair4] by navyguy1990 Aug 28, 2009 (5:45 pm)
Replying to: altair4 (Aug 27, 2009 5:59 am) Altair4, I don't have any indication of a transmission leak and I think this occurred sporadically prior to the TCM change. I've noticed that the rough shift occurs when the transmission shifts from 2nd to 1st while traveling less than 5 mph. Normally, the car stays in 2nd gear even at slow speed and the subsequent acceleration is very smooth because no gear shift occurs until upshift to 3rd gear. When the car has to go uphill or go over a speed bump, the speed slow down sufficient level that the transmission has to shift down to 1st gear. Additionally, when I come to sudden stop (like when you see a ball bounce in front of the car), I've noticed that the transmission down shift to 1st gear with an audible sound.   Navy Guy
#2931 of 2966 Re: Passat Timing Belt and Valve Damage [mindymoore1] by vwdawg Aug 31, 2009 (7:26 am)
Replying to: mindymoore1 (Aug 17, 2009 12:48 pm) mindymoore1: I'm not aware that anyone has responded to your inquiry, but I have some thoughts for you. Unfortunately, no good news here. You did not indicate how many miles you have on your '01, but I believe the factory spec indicates that the timing belt should be changed by 90,000. If you delve more deeply into the Passat forums, you'll see occasional owner reports that a belt broke at 80,000 or even 70,000 miles. Many owners change their belts well in advance of the 90,000 spec, especially considering the obscene consequences of a broken belt.   With regard to the "shop", here's some thoughts: 1) The "valve": What you are referring to is the "valveS" (two to five per cylinder). Your valves were probably just fine, and they're not normally checked before a belt is replaced. Unfortunately, when the belt "slipped" (more likely, broke), the valves likely hit the tops of the pistons and are bent or broken. 2) It IS a bad idea to drive a vehicle with a bad TB, but it would not be irresponsible for the technician to start the car in order to drive it into the shop. I am wondering if the extended time that the car was parked resulted in all of the oil draining out of the engine; with reduced lubrication, perhaps that additional bit of friction caused the TB to break. Of course, it could also just be that one-in-a-million coincidence that the belt would break at the exact time that the car was being driven into the shop. 3) I don't see that the shop would have any negligence in this matter...I don't see that they did anything that would cause the damages. My guess is that the belt change was either overdue, OR if not, this was one of those freaky, premature failures. While Audis and VWs are very attractive cars and fun to drive, they are prone to various catastrophes if maintenance items are left unchecked. Not sure you have done the repairs to your car. If yes, and you have the 1.8T engine, be sure to pay attention to the forums on OIL SLUDGING, i.e., use approved SYNTHETIC oil (Mobil1 5W-40, etc.), or you might be in for MORE disturbing events. Good luck! vwdawg Replies to this message: altair4 (Aug 31, 2009 12:41 pm)
#2932 of 2966 Re: Passat Timing Belt and Valve Damage [vwdawg] by altair4 Aug 31, 2009 (12:41 pm)
Replying to: vwdawg (Aug 31, 2009 7:26 am) I just checked the maintenance schedule on VW's website for the 2001 1.8T engine and the only maintenance for the Timing elt is a check at 40,000 and 80,000 miles, but for the timing belt tensioner, they have listed replacement at 40,000 and 80,000 miles. It's the same for the 2.8 V6. There is no actual listed change interval for the belt on their schedule, which goes out to 100,000 miles. But it seems that if the tensioner is being done, you'd have the belt changed then, too. We don't know if any of this stuff was done.   I know the listed change for the 1.8T for the 2003 MY, the change interval is 105,000 miles. But there's no way I'm going anywhere near that distance. Bummer with the belt breaking when they pulled it in.
#2933 of 2966 03 VW Passat electrical problem-HELP by carol39 Sep 02, 2009 (5:29 pm)
I have an 03 VW wagon GLX with about 66,000 miles on it. Right now the side marker lights are not working and my radio keeps losing the memory stations. The message center threw a "stop immediately" message but nothing was wrong a few weeks ago. Within the last 12-24 months I did find water in the glove box, but no- where else. The car was in the shop all day (non VW dealer) and they say it is an electrical problem but they cannot find it. The car won't pass inspection as it stands now. Any ideas?   Replies to this message: navyguy1990 (Sep 02, 2009 6:29 pm)
#2934 of 2966 Re: 03 VW Passat electrical problem-HELP [carol39] by navyguy1990 Sep 02, 2009 (6:29 pm)
Replying to: carol39 (Sep 02, 2009 5:29 pm) Carol, I have a 2003 Passat GLS (42,000 miles) with water intrusion problem. The guys on this site told me that the front windshield water drain tends to clog and force the excess water to seep into the passenger compartment. During a torrential downpour, I've had water come inside the car and the genius German design has a electronic control module on the floor board of the front passenger side. I don't know if you have a similar problem, but I think you have a moisture caused short somewhere. I've had "stop immediately" accompanied by TRS/ABS/ and other warning lights come on. If you're going to keep the car, I recommend you take it to a dealer, because that what I've did. After about $1500 of repair, my car is completely rehabilitated. I'm just hoping that there will be no additional issues in the future.
#2935 of 2966 Re: VW 2003 Passat W8 Headlight [jlabruno] by aengle Sep 05, 2009 (5:48 pm)
Replying to: jlabruno (Jul 02, 2009 8:11 pm) I have attempted it 3 times and I still can't figure it out. Have you figured it out yet? I would love any help if you have any info. Replies to this message: camperman (Sep 05, 2009 6:06 pm)
#2936 of 2966 Re: VW 2003 Passat W8 Headlight [aengle] by camperman Sep 05, 2009 (6:06 pm)
Replying to: aengle (Sep 05, 2009 5:48 pm) Does your car have the separate signal light fixture? IF so, you will likely have to remove that first. I had the same problem and once I removed the signal light the head light came out easily enough. There are a number of disconnects to make, though so you will want to take your time. These cars are pigs to work on.

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