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#2916 of 3342 2004 1.8T GLS 4MOTION PASSAT- Bad Deal
Aug 18, 2009 (11:44 am)
I have a 2004 GLX 1.8T 4MOTION (4 cylinder) Tiptronic Passat with 92K miles on it. Original owner and paid for. Dealer says I need a new transmission and tiptronic switch as well as a timing belt kit. Dealer says he can get a used transmission in for $2,000, tiptronic switch $470 and timing belt $900- Plus Labor it's about $5055 with tax!. My guess is trade-in is $500 before repairs, maybe $6,000 after repairs. Car does not qualify for the Cash for Clunkers program. I am going to put the $5000 into an Acura and donate this one. Thought I would share my first and last experience with a BAD DEAL VW. Never again.
#2917 of 3342 It is first time
Aug 19, 2009 (4:30 am)
I hear about Tiptronic transmission going bad.
Timing belt is 900 including labour in my area.
#2918 of 3342 Re: 2004 1.8T GLS 4MOTION PASSAT- Bad Deal [arriazagt]
Aug 19, 2009 (6:50 am)
Good idea. I have my junk pile up for sale also. I remember the days when Bosch electrical and German engineering were the very best. Now neither is acceptable. Mercedes Benz has had its share of major problems also in past few years. There will be no more VW's or MB's in my driveway. Now that GM is now longer involved in Saab I was thinking about one however I need to wait until I know what will happen with that company.
#2919 of 3342 Re: 2004 1.8T GLS 4MOTION PASSAT- Bad Deal [camperman]
Aug 19, 2009 (9:38 am)
I got a chuckle out of your post concerning Bosch electricals. Having owned VWs manufactured in three different decades, I never, NEVER, had that thought cross my mind. The exact opposite was often true where I thought, "Ya know, this car would be great if it weren't for the dang electrical problems!" True in the 1970's, 1980's and 2000's, at least from my perspective.
I tolerate it because my Passat wagon was the only car available at its price point with the combination of safety, fuel efficiency, space, and style when I bought it in 2002. As I look at the marketplace now, I see the Jetta wagon being the only real consideration for me.
#2920 of 3342 2008 Passat maintenance question
Aug 20, 2009 (1:30 pm)
According to the user manual, the 08 model need service every 10K miles. I take my car for service to the dealer and my dealer suggests service every 5K miles and sets the trip computer to 5K service interval. Is everyone else (2006-current VW owners) doing service at every 5K miles?It sucks because the carefree maintenance is not available on the 08 models and its not fun servicing every 5K miles....please advise.
#2921 of 3342 non-spec motor oil for the V6 2.8l engine
Aug 20, 2009 (3:28 pm)
Apologies if discussed before (probably...).
I have a '05 GLX 4motion with the V6 2.8l engine. Low mileage car, I just hit 25,000 miles.
Recent oil change: I opted for synthetic, 5W40 (euro) at Jiffy Lube. I know this is not VW spec - but is this going to be an issue? Location is California so low temperature is not an issue.
#2922 of 3342 Re: 2004 1.8T GLS 4MOTION PASSAT- Bad Deal [altair4]
Aug 20, 2009 (4:07 pm)
I have you beaten. My first VW was a '57. Then Several others including a Fastback and Rabbit. Now we have a '98 Golf which has given it's share of electrical problems and the Pissat which buying was a monumental blunder for me. 9 total but these 2 are electrical problems on wheels. When they are gone that will be the last.
Price point may be a consideration for buying but when the repairs start the price point quickly becomes moot.
Good luck to you with your beast.
#2923 of 3342 Re: 2004 1.8T GLS 4MOTION PASSAT- Bad Deal [camperman]
Aug 20, 2009 (6:05 pm)
I too have had my share of VW's starting with a new 1959 Beetle ending with a 1971 Superbeetle, a yellow car that we called "Herman the German". It was the best of the bunch and is probably still running.
I am amazed at the variety of electrical and mechanical issues on this Passat Forum! (my first visit)
I have been looking at the 06' Jetta TDI's and thought perhaps the Passat would be just as good or better, but found they stopped making the TDI Passat in 2005.
I have also found a much reported weakness in the 2 ltr Passat engines.
The engine counterbalance shaft run by a little chain off the oil pump that is prone to break. For several thousand dollars it can be converted to a gear drive for better reliability, if you happen to know a VW engine Guru who will do it.
After reading through the last 10 pages of horror stories on this Forum, I am running not walking from anything to do with a Passat.
#2924 of 3342 2003 Passat Transmission and Timing Belt
Aug 25, 2009 (5:22 am)
This is Navy Guy again with my 2003 Passat. The Korean service center actually did me right by only charging me about $320 to solve my water intrusion problem. They installed a more rigid tubing for the sunroof drain and the front windshied drain. Plus, they replaced the rear brake pads ($75 for parts) and engine sensor ($40 for part). Considering that the parts were $115, the labor for everything was only $205.
Now, I've noticed a different problem. When I slow down from about 25 mph to about 5 mph (typically to go over a speed bump), the transmission shifts very rough when I speed back up. This happens once in about 10 times and typically during hot weather. Do I have a transmission problem? I don't know when transmission fluid was changed out last.
Additionally, all the discussions about timing belt replacement is getting me worried. I have 42,000 miles on the car, but it's been pretty much all city stop and go traffic in Seoul, Korea. Should I change the timing belt in order to put my mind at peace?
Thanks in advance.
#2925 of 3342 Re: 2003 Passat Transmission and Timing Belt [navyguy1990]
Aug 25, 2009 (6:02 am)
Navy Guy -
Maybe I'm bringing you bad news, but the transmission control module is also located under the carpet, in the front footwell (I think on the left side, but don't quote me on that). Your transmission shift problem might be related to your water intrustion problem.