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BMW 5 Series, Sedan, Wagon
#656 of 4114 two part question: selling and buying
Nov 14, 2003 (2:00 pm)
part one / selling: my girlfriend is ready to sell her 1995 BMW 525i. it is in great condition and has 118,000 miles on it. is it better to trade it in or sell it privately?
part two / buying: she wants to buy another 5 series BMW. we don't like the newer 2004 model but we are interested in the models from 2000 to 2003. the question is: what year / model is the best one out there?
#657 of 4114 ED Wholesale Prices
Nov 15, 2003 (2:03 pm)
While I have found European Delivery MSRP I have not been able to find the ED wholesale prices. I am planning to move from my current 99 540 -6 speed to a like 04 and need to be in Europe early next year so ED may make sense for me. Has anyone found the ED 04 invoice prices yet? Has anyone purchased an 04 using ED and if so can you still get them for the $1200 - $1500 over invoice as many did on the 03s last year?
#658 of 4114 BMW 2004 530I and IDrive
Nov 15, 2003 (2:36 pm)
Looking for opinions on the IDRIVE on the 2004
#660 of 4114 blerner1 - i-drive
Nov 16, 2003 (12:26 pm)
There has been a LOT of conversation about that very thing in our ongoing BMW 5-Series discussion. Follow that link and read back over the last few weeks.
Also, since this is supposed to be focused on prices paid and actual buying experience, that is the best place for any further general questions on the vehicle that you might have.
Good luck - I'm sure you'll find lots of great information in that discussion - see you there.
#661 of 4114 My Advice on the new 5 series
Nov 17, 2003 (7:34 pm)
wait for the 05 A6. Better car all around; and it doesn't look like a bridesmaid dress.
#662 of 4114 Re: My Advice on the new 5 series
Nov 18, 2003 (5:57 am)
Is that when Audi will finally have RWD?
Nov 18, 2003 (4:06 pm)
Can't help but wonder what the reluctance is among certain purists to accept AWD. We brake with four. Distributing power among four is superior. Track time comparisons between RWD and AWD hardly tell the story.
#664 of 4114 AWD reluctance .....
Nov 19, 2003 (5:50 am)
I thing AWD is great in certain conditions. I've driven RWD cars most of my life and have seldom been in a situation where I said, Gee, AWA would make the difference between getting to my destination or not.
As a practical example, on Dec. 31, 1998, I left Northern Ohio in a fierce snow storm headed for South Carolina. Roads had heavy snow covering a layer of ice. I was driving my '97 RWD (2WD) Toyota 4Runner. I passed everything on the road. I honestly don't know how AWD or 4WD would have made much of a difference. There is no substitute for knowing how to drive.
Now, my real rub with AWD is the extra weight, and as you know, weight is the enemy of handling. Not to mention the additional upfront and maintenance costs.
But, we have chocolate, vanilla, and a zillion other flavors. To each their own. I'm not going to try to convince you to come over to my side. This is just one old guy's humble opinion. And, thanks for asking.
FULL DISCLOSURE: My wife drives a BMW X5. Yep, AWD.
Nov 19, 2003 (7:19 am)
"There is no substitute for knowing how to drive."
Amen to the above. There is a mentality out there that thinks driving in snow with AWD means "I can drive as I do on a dry summer day" Accordingly, there are lots of winter accidents involving SUVs.
Your post piqued my interest because I am a fan of Audi's committment to AWD. I am also disappointed in BMW's lack thereof. I drove an S4 wagon several days ago and absolutely loved it. It's a one-of-a-kind vehicle as is the RS6. Lofty prices though.
I have no issue with the added weight since it is low. Aside from stability in snow and rain, acceleration in hairpins, especially twisting upgrades is where AWD shines. Too bad it can't be an option on all vehicles, this way everyone could be happy. Would like to see it offered on E55 and M5.
Jack, thanks for the full disclosure. You are a man of integrity!
PS - apologies for straying off topic. It happens!