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#3990 of 4112 Re: 528i Questions Before I Buy [tranav]
Jun 01, 2012 (3:55 pm)
tranav, I have not bought it yet. The warranty I was including in my price is the 7 year extended warranty (so decrease $3,490 from my price to compare it to yours). The reason I am getting the car so cheap, is that when you buy a BMW through the EPP/Corporate Fleet program it is a set price, for every car, all the time. For instance, all EPP purchases of a 528 will be at $3,000 below invoice. So If I wait to buy a 2013 528, I will get the exact same deal as I am getting now (however the car will inherently be more expensive because the MSRP and invoice is $600 more for the 2013's).
I keep going back and forth between the 2012 that is coming in for me and ordering a 2013 which will probably be delivered in September. Everyone is telling me that no one would ever want to buy my 528 when I am ready to sell it because they will expect the navigation. Also, I am a techy guy and I love my iphone as well as pandora. That said, the BMW Apps might be a must for me so I can easily stream pandora through my iphone while driving. Thoughts? I am also being told that if I am thinking about getting a 528 with navigation/apps, I HAVE to wait for the 2013 model because the navigation system and the idrive is being completely redone. Is that your understanding? (I would not likely pay extra in the 2013 for the new digital instrument cluster/speedometer display).
#3991 of 4112 Re: 528i Questions Before I Buy [ditrasetman]
Jun 08, 2012 (6:56 pm)
Anyone know if the new MFID is in fact going to be in the new 2013?
#3992 of 4112 Re: EPP/Fleet program??? [ditrasetman]
Jun 10, 2012 (2:02 pm)
This is a good deal. I sold a new 2012 528xi last month through the EPP. All those fees can be expected and most are normal fees. I'm not sure what the $500 MACO is though since MD doesn't have a fee like that. I hope this helps you about the fees
#3993 of 4112 Re: 528i Questions Before I Buy [ditrasetman]
Jun 10, 2012 (2:15 pm)
There should definately be plenty of 2012 528's available with Navigation/Tech package and BMW apps unless you want a specific color combo and options. Also, I haven't heard of the navigation system or idrive being redone for the 2013 model
#3994 of 4112 What would YOU do? 2013 528i (prem/tech) v 2012 528i (prem/tech) - help!
Jun 20, 2012 (2:47 pm)
I am engaged in a huge debate with myself as to what I should do. I am going to buy a 528i through BMW's Executive Preference Program (EPP), which allows me to purchase the vehicle through my company (since it has over 500 employees) for $3,000 below dealer invoice - no questions asked (and no additional negotiation permitted).
Here are the two options I am debating between:
(316 - Power tailgate, 322 - Comfort Access system, 655 - Satellite radio, LC - Dakota Leather)
(609 - Navigation system, 610 - Head-up Display, 615 - Online Information Services, 6NF -Smartphone Integration, 6NR - BMW Apps, 6UH - Real Time Traffic Information, 6WA - Instrument cluster with extended contents)
Grand Total: $50,612.60 ($49,710 (invoice) - $3,000 (EPP discount) X 6% (Sales Tax) + $1,100 (dealer fees/tag))
(316 Power tailgate, 319 - Universal Garage Door Opener, 508 - Park Distance Control, LC - Dakota Leather)
(3AG - Rear-view camera, 609 Navigation system)
& (separately added on) 6NR - BMW Apps
Grand Total $48,880.00 ($48,000 (invoice) - $3,000 (EPP discount) x 6% (Sales Tax) + $1,100 (dealer fees/tag))
Which 528i would you buy?
Ok, the most immediately apparent difference is the price: the 2013 cost $1,700 more than the 2012 (part of that is due to the $600 increase in MSRP for the 2013, and part of it is the price of the packages)
But, as you can see, the packages come with DIFFERENT items:
-The 2013 Premium package comes with satellite radio (which I won't use - I'm a big Pandora fan), as well as the Comfort Access System - I'm not sure if I'm going to use that. But, unfortunately, the 2013 loses the Park Distance Control. What's more important?
-The 2013 Technology package loses the Rear-view camera (which is a shame), but gains the Head-up Display, which according to some people on the forum, is the most amazing thing since sliced bread.
-Also, the 2013 comes with the newly updated (hardware and software) navigation system (which is discussed in length here:http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691429). This is important to me, as my understanding is that the new system will be better and faster. I'm a big technology buff.
-And of course (still in debate), is the possibility (albeit unlikely) that the new digital multifunction instrument display (instrument cluster) might be on the new 2013 (see http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690544) but it is not looking like it will be in the July builds.
I'm leaning towards buying the 2013, especially considering that the 2012 production run has ended, and BMW is obviously going to try to unload the remainder of them at somewhat of a discount prior to the arrival of the 2013's (but unfortunately my deal through the EPP program always remains the same - $3,000 below invoice).
THOUGHTS? Your comments are GREATLY appreciated.
#3995 of 4112 Re: What would YOU do? 2013 528i (prem/tech) v 2012 528i (prem/tech) - help! [ditrasetman]
Jun 20, 2012 (10:18 pm)
Wouldn't you be better off not using the deal and negotiating with the dealer directly through their internet dept? You should be able to do better than $3k under invoice in this market on a 2012. There are a few incentives out there for this one last time i checked.
#3996 of 4112 Re: What would YOU do? 2013 528i (prem/tech) v 2012 528i (prem/tech) - help! [coupedncal]
Jun 21, 2012 (4:05 am)
Coupedncal, anyone: is it possible to negotiate below invoice AND then combine negotiated price with Manufacturer's rebates, Team USA rebate, and other rebates? In other words if one negotiates $3k off the invoice - can he still apply additional discounts potentially adding up to another $4k, which would equal to $7k off the invoice??? If that's the case - this would be the best deal ever!
#3997 of 4112 Re: What would YOU do? 2013 528i (prem/tech) v 2012 528i (prem/tech) - help! [ditrasetman]
Jun 21, 2012 (10:08 am)
Remember on the 2012's you have the $1500 Option Allowance and if you already own a BMW, the $1500 Loyalty Cash. Both can be applied with the EPP Program. So you should be able to get $6000 under invoice on a 2012.
#3998 of 4112 Re: What would YOU do? 2013 528i (prem/tech) v 2012 528i (prem/tech) - help! [jasonmdbmw]
Jun 21, 2012 (5:11 pm)
Jason, are you sure that cash allowances can be combined with the EPP?
This is from the EPP document "While the programs that are available and applicable will vary based on the time of purchase, certain cash discount programs (i.e. model build out allowances) will not be available in conjunction with the national EPP program."
Also, in another EPP document I have, it says "Fleet pricing for Cash purchases or FMC acquisitions cannot be combined with any retail sales support programs, retail invoice or option credits."
Lastly, I have USAA insurance, and I believe there are some potential cash benefits for that as well, but I am also not sure if they can be combined with EPP.
And by the way, I am buying the car - not sure if that matters.
Jul 01, 2012 (10:31 am)
I was quoted a money factor of .0225 and Residual of 56% for a 2012 535i 36mo/15k lease. Why such a high MF?
Also, the dealer only offered $5k below MSRP ($1k over invoice), which I don't feel was too great of a deal, especially with the '13's around the corner.
What do you think will change once the 2013's hit the lot?