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#3637 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 27, 2010 (2:04 pm)
please ignore my previous message, as I've made error in the numbers..
I'm in the market for new BMW 528i / 535i, and here is best quote I've received so far. Would like to get the experts' opinion, on if this is a decent price.
2010 - 528i - Space Gray with Gray interior - Cold weather package - Premium package - Value package - comfort access - split fold down rear seat - xenon head lights- navigation - satellite radio
MSRP = $53,195
Carsdirect = $44,810
Offer at $44,500
2010 - 535i - Space gray with cream beige - Premium - Sport package - value package - comfort access - navigation - satellite radio
MSRP = $60,345
Carsdirect = $50,190
Couple of additional questions
- Documentation fee is about $599.. What do you think is the reasonable fee in Georgia ?
- This will be my first time buying a BMW.. Should I go for 528i or 535i ?
#3638 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 27, 2010 (5:11 pm)
Doc fee is ok.......
There is one 535i in Roswell area which MSRP 56,920K which advertise to sell for 48K.
I believe you can knock down 2K for the 535I.
I bought 335I 2009 for 37K (MSRP 51K) in Feb 2010.
doc fee is 349 in Athen.
The stragegy is to negotiate through email before you come in the dealer. Come to dealer is a waste of time. You have time to work on the deal until April 30 which the incentive expired
#3639 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 27, 2010 (5:20 pm)
I forgot to mention there is a hold back $1367
So basicly....negotiate on 47K up to 48k..+ doc fee + 6% tax + 41 ($3 lemon + $18 registration + $20 title)
#3640 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [doanmquang]
Apr 27, 2010 (7:40 pm)
Thanks for your input..
Yes, I did look at the one in Roswell, and his best offer seems to be $48,925 (might go to $48K0, and it doesn't have sport package.
Any thoughts on 528i offer
- MSRP $53,195, so far I negotiated it down to $44,500 on the sales price, but I'm still negotiating on doc fee
- This particular car is not on his lot, and needs to come from some where in west coast.
Appreciate your feedback.
#3641 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 28, 2010 (5:33 am)
You can not negotiate on the doc fee but you can knock down the price of the car which is equal to doc fee. That is the trick.....because all the doc fee is preprint on the sale document.
The 528i offer is still high. I think you can lower your offer to 42.5K to 43K + doc fee. Remember, 2011 model is on the parking lot so time is more flavoravle on your side than the dealer.
GA economy is very weak with 10.5 unemployment rate. I don't see a lot of business activities going on and you see a lot of commercial Lease sign posted up.
Which dealer are you working on?
Remember every penny to save is good. Dealer are trying to make much profit from you as possible.
Doc fee is actually their profit and split between the salesman and their manager....and that does not counting into others profit like car options, holdback and incentives for sell more cars from the manufactures...
I hope that helps....
#3642 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [doanmquang]
Apr 28, 2010 (6:22 am)
Thanks doanmquang for your input.
I thought carsdirect (target price) was the price to beat. So when the dealer agreed for $44.5 (few hundred dollars below target price), I thought it was a decent price. Some how I missed to include dealer holdback of $1367 ...
Dealer I'm working with is Nalley's BMW.
#3643 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 28, 2010 (6:28 am)
try www.truecar.com to find the true cost of the specific car w/ options.
I optioned a 528i to $53,170 MSRP and it says the true cost is $43,211. so they are still making $1,300.
#3644 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [smithsonga]
Apr 28, 2010 (8:32 am)
Of course, the dealer will alway make profit. The profit amount is usually depend on the buyer behavior and knowledge. They can still can earn on the profit on your finance and trading in.....
Truescar.com site which I used as a price guide and I know I can beat their target price easily...depend on end of the month or first day of the month.....
As I know there are less and less buyers in the market.....so BMW give their $$ for marketing support and Loyal Customer..... and .09 percent for 24 months...etc....
Just keep your options open and negotiate with several dealers at the same time....
Once the price is confirm.....let them know get the paper work done and wash the car for you to pick it up....
I walk out the dealer with the car and all paper work done in 30 minutes...no waiting.....
#3645 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 28, 2010 (9:50 am)
Just bought my 528xi (space gray ext, black int, value, premium, xenon) in the Chicago area - $42,256.00(carsdirect) + $155.00 (doc fee). Had to also pay $300.00 more to turn in my 2007 328xi lease 3 months ahead of time.
Good deals with the remaining 2010 models these days....I was thinking of a late model CPO in the beginning, but decided with a new one, given the deals around...
#3646 of 4113 Re: Pricing discussion on a new 528i / 535i [firstbmw_ga]
Apr 29, 2010 (8:40 am)
There is a lot of good feedback on pricing already, but not much on the 528 vs. 535 issue. After all, if you get a slightly better deal on the wrong car, it really is not such a great deal.
Regarding the 528 vs. 535 – I believe the engines are really the same displacement (the numbers used to indicate the engine size, but BMW did away with that long ago) so a 528 is not necessarily 2.8 liters, a 535 is most definitely NOT 3.5 liters, etc.)
Both are fine engines – BMW is still the champ of inline 6 engines – which are inherently balanced engines as opposed to V6s which require balance shafts to run smoothly.
So either mode, the 528 or 535 is a fine car, it’s just a matter of what you want. The 535, with its 300 h.p. and 300 foot pounds of torque is an absolute jewel of en engine. Much better than the high performance 540i of just a few years ago. That said, it is a powerful engine. If you like to accelerate really quickly and drive on a track, buy a 535. For many, a 528 has all the power you will ever need. Especially if your motoring is limited to the traffic clogged roads (like in Atlanta, for example). Then, the 528 saves you quite a bit of $, and won’t make much different. For me, I instruct at high speed driving schools and track events with the BMW club, so I would by the 535 all day long. But that is not relevant to you – the question is how YOU drive.
If in doubt, drive both models, not just around the block, but really drive them. Accelerate both at full throttle to see just what the difference is. If you find the faster acceleration worth it, buy a 535. If you find the 528 more than adequate, buy a 528 and save yourself some hard earned cash. There is no right answer overall, but there is a right answer for you.