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#2981 of 3078
Re: New 550 in [carnaught] by chile96
Jun 22, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 04, 2008 4:33 pm)

I went ahead and just bought it. I've already delved into the wallet-emptying world of mods so I'd rather I'd do it on a car I own than am just leasing.
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Re: What is the best price on this car? [mango39] by chile96
Jun 22, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: mango39 (Jun 20, 2008 7:37 am)

It really depends on where in TX and how many surrounding dealers there are. If you're like me in Midland with the next closest dealer hours away, you're SOL
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Good Price on 528i? by dwf1
Jun 23, 2008 (2:48 pm)
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I am in the process of shopping for a 528i (Premium Package and manual transmission). BMW is currently offering the Premium Package at no cost on 2008 models. The local dealer has discounted the price of the car by this amount. Is this as good of deal as I'm going to get or should I continue shopping?
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Theorytalk - Best possible price on a 535i? by kojiao
Jun 23, 2008 (10:57 pm)
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Going to the dealer tomorrow. Been reading these forums for about 2 months and ready to take the dive!
 
Going to lease the car, but I don't think that it makes a difference, you can still bargain for the price of the car (after reading the forums).
 
So here is my question. With the Trunk money offer for the premium package and how bad the economy is going and since dealerships have been losing business the past few months, should I go for the throat and offer the following. (going to be general and not put up numbers, easier if it's a yes, no response!)
 
The 535i + all the options I want (prem, sport, etc) at invoice pricing - $2500 (trunk money for the premium package) and work my way up from there?
 
And also, for a 3 yr, 10K mile is the MF still 0.0020 and residual 58%?
 
I live in So Cal also.
 
So my friends, think that my offer is too unreasonable?
 
And I want to thank everyone again for posting your deals, it's really helped me out and informed me on how a REAL MAN should negotiate for a BMW. I feel much more confident about going tomorrow to the dealer with the knowledge I have...I'm going to be ready for a hopefully GREAT deal!
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Re: Theorytalk - Best possible price on a 535i? [kojiao] by carnaught
Jun 24, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: kojiao (Jun 23, 2008 10:57 pm)

kojiao: You can try for your deal and always work up from there. You have nothing to lose.
 
Even though the economy now is poor, keep in mind the shrinking value of the dollar on a European car.
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Re: Theorytalk - Best possible price on a 535i? [carnaught] by kojiao
Jun 24, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 24, 2008 12:28 pm)

Carnaught - Thanks for the confirmation.
 
Have a friend get the 535i two weeks ago for $1500 under the invoice price. But going to double check to see if they are actually telling me the truth or not (people tend to exaggerate their "great buys") - The dealer was in Long Beach, FYI.
 
Hopefully by the end of this month, I can report something good for everyone!
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535i Prem/Sport/Ipod/Nav/Comfort - Here's my deal! by kojiao
Jun 25, 2008 (1:08 am)
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Ok, just finished up on this deal.
 
Invoice pricing:
  
535i - $45,450
Prem - $2,555
Sport - $1,910
Ipod - $365
Nav - $1,730
Comfort $910
Destination - $825
Training fee - $180
MACO - $245
 
Invoice total - $54,170 + $45 Doc fees = $54,215
 
Got 1K under invoice .
 
Price: $53,215
 
Then Drive off fees:
 
1st month $720.01
$410 TTL
$825 Acquis
$33.23 - Cap cost reduction --> don't ask why, I put a Down payment of $33.23!
$2.58 - Sales tax on cap cost reduction
$7.00 - CA Tire Fee
$63.94 - Tax on bank fee (asked them about it, they didn't know how to answer, left it in)
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$2061.76 Out the door fees
 
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Adjust cap cost - $53,215.00 - $33.29 (cap reduction) = $53,181.77 (net cap cost)
Residual 58% - $33,857.50 - 10K miles/yr
Money factor - .00151 (for some reason why, they took 1 SD + 7MSD to get the full
                                 .00049 MF reduction) So $6000 ($750 per MSD x8) was my
                                 SD!
 
I wanted to point out that the $6,000 that I put down in SD will save me over $1500 over the lifetime of the lease. So you are basically getting 25% back on your 6K investment that you will GET BACK!!(provided you don't wreck the car). So MSD > Cap reduction deposits!
 
You guys can do the math from here but just in case you're lazy:
 
Depreciation = $536.80
Finance Fee = $131.42
Sales tax (7.75%) = $51.79
 
36mo/10K miles - $720.01
 
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Overall a fun experience, I'm sure that I could've done better, but the dealership is close to home and they give you a BMW loaner when you turn it in for your free service...and other nice things (take you to the airport, free car wash, etc)
 
The salesman is nice too, very patient, I asked for 2K under invoice, but then realized the trunk money was $1,910, so I just said we'll split it, I take 1K and they take $910. (But I'm sure that people will point out the other places I got ripped off!)
 
Anyways, that's what I got! Did I do ok on my first "Carspace.com educated" deal?
 
Fun car - pushed it on the freeway...whee!
 
You all have been great with my education on leasing!
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Re: 535i Prem/Sport/Ipod/Nav/Comfort - Here's my deal! [kojiao] by car_rm
Jun 25, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: kojiao (Jun 25, 2008 1:08 am)

Congrats on the new car.
 
To answer your question about the MSD, if you are a new BMW leasee, if you had not given a security deposit, they would have increased the money factor so that depost negated that increase. Did notice that they did mark up the aquistion fee by the $200 max allowed but as you were able to bring in the premium package money availabile to the dealer, it looks very reasonable. More improtantly, are you happy?
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Re: 535i Prem/Sport/Ipod/Nav/Comfort - Here's my deal! [car_rm] by kojiao
Jun 25, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: car_rm (Jun 25, 2008 11:09 am)

Car_RM - Yes I'm happy with the deal, not the bestest deal out there but I still think that I did ok, the lease payments were about what I expected. +- 20 bucks
 
I talked to him about the acq fee, but the saleman was like "come on"....
 
I think that there were two places I could've pushed, but didn't
 
1) On the invoice - The $245 MACO fee
2) The $825 acq fee - The $200 extra that you mentioned
 
I think that the dealer made up for the 1000 off invoice there, so if I really was being a bad egg about it, I think that I could've gotten another $445 off the car but I was happy with the deal as is.
 
The $445 would've saved me about 15 bucks a month, I'll be meaner on the next lease....
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Re: 535i Prem/Sport/Ipod/Nav/Comfort - Here's my deal! [kojiao] by smithsonga
Jun 25, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: kojiao (Jun 25, 2008 1:08 am)

let me understand this...the price was $1k under invoice, however BMW has a free premium package ($1910) currently, so basically the dealer sold it for $910 OVER invoice, correct?

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