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528i in Charlotte by seabassttu
Apr 19, 2008 (8:07 pm)
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Hello all, need some help on the following for a 528i in Charlotte, NC. Black 528i, premium package with black leather, heated seats, iPod and xenon.
 
MSRP 49,075
Selling price of 47.075
36 month lease with 10K a year
$1,116 down (includes first payment)
$684 a month.
 
This seems really high to me - rookie here and would really appreciate some advice. Thanks.
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Re: 528i in Charlotte [seabassttu] by mikesmithtx644
Apr 20, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: seabassttu (Apr 19, 2008 8:07 pm)

I am working on a car with an MSRP of $50,075, (Monaco Blue, Brn leather, xenon, ipod, comfort access, heated seats, premium package) selling at $42-$43k (deal not complete yet) 30 to 36mo. lease (monthly cost is the same) with 12k miles
$0 down - nothing out of pocket, but may have to make first payment
Demo with 9k miles on it for $650/mo. Higher mileage than I prefer, but as long as it is in top shape I don't mind since it will be under warranty for as long as I have possession of it.
 
I would say you're probably getting a pretty good deal. I definately don't think you're getting 'ripped of.'
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Re: 528i in Charlotte [mikesmithtx644] by capsfan
Apr 20, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: mikesmithtx644 (Apr 20, 2008 6:43 am)

Just Curious -
 
I am looking at a similar car as well about $50K MSRP with 13K miles. Wondering what argument or tactic you took with the dealer to get the cost of the car to the $42-43K range?
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Re: 528i in Charlotte [capsfan] by mikesmithtx644
Apr 20, 2008 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: capsfan (Apr 20, 2008 1:31 pm)

Well, I just took an approach of honesty. I told them that I had a deal on an Infiniti M35 and I needed to make a decision by this weekend and that I preferred to have another BMW ( I currently have a 2002 530i - not financed through BMW). I said I just wanted to lease now because I want to buy a new car when the new model 5 series comes out. Again, just the truth.
 
I used the terms I saw on this board (thank you to all who contribute to this board) and ran my own calculations and thought I had a chance at hitting the $650/mo or less I needed. I told my sales guy I can afford $650/mo (nothing out of pocket - except maybe the first payment) and said that it was simply a 'yes or no' answer and they just needed to tell me 'yes' or 'no.' Real simple. No games. I told this to my sales guy and he had his finance manager call me. After my phone call with the finance manager where I laid it all out he said he would speak with the sales manager and get back to me. It was their creative idea to use the demo car as an option.
 
Assuming the car checks out this week, BMW will have a sale. The sales guy never offered this as an option, so if I wasn't stubborn this deal would never have happened.
 
One tact may be to go straight to the Finance manager and lay it out. My conversation with him was a breath of fresh air. No stupid comments like 'put $3600 down and I can lower your payments by $100/mo.'
 
I did learn that BMW actually pays the dealership for the use of the Demo's, so even with a below invoice deal, the dealership is still in the money.
 
I wonder how many car sales a dealer actually looses because of their sales team?
 
Hope this helps....
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Re: My First BMW-Did I do OK? [smithsonga] by ctshorse
Apr 20, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: smithsonga (Mar 28, 2008 8:02 am)

NEVER EVER put money down on a lease. It's just irresponsible. In your case, get the dealer to issue you a check for the $4K. This is what I did when I got my first BMW and had to get rid of a Nissan 300Z. If you signed the papers, CALL THEM Monday and demand a revised contract with the $4K back to you. They may bump the MF a little but still, you keep the cash. If the car is stolen ot totaled you will lose that $4K. My accountant screamed at me the day after I did the deal. Then he made me correct it. Good luck.
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Re: 528i in Charlotte [mikesmithtx644] by mikesmithtx644
Apr 25, 2008 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: mikesmithtx644 (Apr 20, 2008 6:43 am)

I drove home my new BMW 528i today (Monaco Blue, Brown Leather, Xenon, Heated front seats, iPod, comfort Access, Premium Package). MSRP - $50,075
 
To be fair I bought a demo/loaner car with 9,100 miles on it (but it will be under warranty for as long as I have it), but here is the deal.
 
Term: 36 Months
Type: Lease
Mileage/yr: 12,000
Cap Cost: $45,524.15 (my only out of pocket was the first payment. Acquisition fee was $825, Tax was 2618.52, title $184.30, price of vehicle $41,896.33)
residual value: $29,669.50 ( I thinks this works out to about 65%)
depreciation: $15,864.55
rent charge: $6632.03
total of base monthly payments: $22,486.68
Monthly lease payment: $624.63
 
There are no other fees detailed except the $350 disposition fee at the end of the term.
 
I do not know what the money factor is as this is not called out on the paperwork. I am not quite sure how to figure this out.
 
Thanks to all who have posted here. I wouldn't be driving this 528i with our all of the good info posted here. I hope this will help others.
 
What do you all think of this deal? My next best deal for a similar car was $752/mo.
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Re: 528i in Charlotte [mikesmithtx644] by smithsonga
Apr 26, 2008 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: mikesmithtx644 (Apr 25, 2008 8:25 pm)

seems like an OK deal if are satisfied leasing a used car (demo are used...they are just allowed to sell them as untitled new).
 
I got a 528i back in December, 2 yrs, 10k miles/year. $52k msrp....around $48k price if I recall. $1800 total down (doc fee, acq fee, a small cap cost reduction..about $400, long story). $600/month including 7% sales tax.
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Warranty and Loaner Cars by gjonesmi
Apr 26, 2008 (7:59 am)
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If you purchase you BMW at a dealer that is not local, does the local dealer have a responsibility to service your car and provide a loaner.
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Re: Warranty and Loaner Cars [gjonesmi] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 26, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: gjonesmi (Apr 26, 2008 7:59 am)

Any BMW dealer will be glad to do service and warranty work on your car..
 
Loaners will vary by dealer.. Given enough notice, my local dealer will provide a BMW loaner to any service customer, regardless of where they purchased their car.. Some dealers only give loaners to their own sales customers.
 
BMW NA has no policy or requirement for loaners. It is solely at each individual dealer's discretion.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: One more 550i ordering question [chile96] by SergeyM
May 02, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: chile96 (Apr 16, 2008 7:01 pm)

BMW 550 with the sport package has M-aero package standard. Check BMWUSA.COM if in doubt.

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