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BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: 3 Series Buying advice [kyfdx] by stunyccpa
Apr 20, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 19, 2009 12:26 pm)

What are your thoughts about buying a CPO now with navigation if you plan to keep the car for a long period of time, after the warranty expires? Is it too risky because if something goes wrong with the iDrive it could be very expensive to bring it in for repairs? Are you better stay away from navigation/iDrive if you are purchasing the BMW to keep for a long period of time?
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Re: 3 Series Buying advice [stunyccpa] by sw113
Apr 20, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: stunyccpa (Apr 20, 2009 9:38 am)

Cost is the major issue. This is our second car and I want to keep cost low. Frankly, a car is not an asset and as much as I want to have the fun of driving, I'm trying to get a good, fun, yet reliable car. I'm hoping a used BMW 3 series can do it.
 
I do a lot of my own repairs (oil, brakes, general engine), but electronic issues are pretty much beyond the home garage repair.
 
I offered $13,000 on the 04 325xi with 50K on it. The guy hasn't responded to me. I'm thinking that means no deal?!
 
Now I'm considering an 01 330xi with 94K on it. However, the engine was replaced and only has about 50K on it (thermostat failure cause overheat and engine ruin). He also replaced the front control arms and bushings as well as the belts are new. The engine was also resealed for some small oil leaks.
 
Thoughts?
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Buying a 3 series by gluck
Apr 20, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: sw113 (Apr 20, 2009 9:50 am)

I am looking for a 3 series 328 with very low mileage. I recently test drove a CPO - 2007 328 with 14K and I felt that the steering was very hard/heavy. The power was alright nothing special. I drive a lexus ES350 and wasn't very impressed. My question to all of you is - Is this normal for a BMW to be heavy? I plan to test drive a different car. Also should be I be looking for a CPO or from a private seller? The 2007 328's with less than 20K miles are going for close to 27K. How much low should I go?
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Re: Buying a 3 series [gluck] by blueguydotcom
Apr 20, 2009 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: gluck (Apr 20, 2009 10:51 am)

2007 328i CPO - lLook at trade-in value - and that's the selling price goal for a CPO.
 
A 2007 will probably be due for tires - that's a big CPO advantage right there as they'll replace the tires. Additionally, the longer warranty coverage adds some peace of mind. And BMW won't sell a car as CPO if it's been in an accident. Essentially a CPO'd BMW is going to be in good shape and have an extended warranty. If you are a BMWCCA member you'll also get a $500 rebate on CPO'd cars. Finally, you can often get better financing deals on CPOs.
 
Yes, all BMWs with ZSP (sport) will feel like the steering is heavy at slow speeds. At higher speeds throttle inputs do a better job of steering the car in corners.
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Run flats by beamer44
Apr 20, 2009 (2:01 pm)
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I just ordered an 09' 328 convertible and wanted to know if it is worth getting the $5 a month tire insurance? Can these tires be fixed by BMW or another dealer? I checked into switching them out with non-run flats but BMW said little spare wont fit in trunk and you have to carry jack and 4-way lug wrench in trunk. Is there a spot to even put the jack under the car to jack it up & can you use 89 octane gasoline. Thanks for your help and answers.
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Re: Run flats [beamer44] by blueguydotcom
Apr 20, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: beamer44 (Apr 20, 2009 2:01 pm)

1. You can use go flats and just get a AAA card. No sense in carrying a spare. Never have with any of my cars I switched to go flats. Also BMW's 17s aren't that bad compared to the 18s.
 
$5 a month isn't worth it unless you live in an area with horrid roads. If you have roads that awful, consider going with it as i know some have mentioned bent/cracked rims as RFTs do not give over poor pavement.
 
Yes you can put a spare and jack in the trunk but that seems like an awful waste of space for what might happen.
 
2. Why buy a 40k car and then use cheap gasoline? If you believe the extra $2-3 a week is going to hurt you financially, maybe you should consider holding off on the purchase for awhile?
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Re: 3 Series Buying advice [sw113] by roadburner
Apr 21, 2009 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: sw113 (Apr 20, 2009 9:50 am)

I'd look at RWD 3ers. If you need all-weather capability just buy a dedicated set of winter wheels/tires.
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Purchase offer 335i sedan by gopropak
Apr 21, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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I have located the 335i sedan that matches the exact specs I am looking for. Here it is:
 2009 335i Sedan
Cold Weather
Premium
Sport
STEPTRONIC Auto
nav
iPod/USB
Destination
 
MSRP $51000 (+TTL $2083)
Invoice $46845 (+TTL $2083)
 
They offered : $48785 ($1940 over invoice)
I countered with $47000 before TTL which they balked at.
They threw in a $449 "processing fee" with the TTL. Can I get them to drop that?
 
The BMWFS rate quoted was 3.9% and a $1500 rebate which will go towards a down payment.
 
Is this even close to a good deal?
 Thanks!
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Re: Run flats [blueguydotcom] by beamer44
Apr 21, 2009 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Apr 20, 2009 4:15 pm)

Thanks for replying back to me. What are go flats and where do you get them? Can you explain the AAA card program. Thanks for your time.
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Re: Purchase offer 335i sedan [gopropak] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 22, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: gopropak (Apr 21, 2009 4:45 pm)

$449 processing fee? Just add that to the selling price..
 
So, that puts them $2400 over invoice, including the fee.. That looks like about $1000 too high, assuming you get the $1500 credit.. So, somewhere close to halfway between your numbers would be fair... or, a little closer to your number, than theirs...
 
Also, did they tell you that the rebate is $3000 instead of $1500, if you use your own financing? (Actually, I think it's dealer cash). So, you can get 3.9% on your own (PenFed?), then you can save even more.
 
regards,
kyfdx

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