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#9466 of 10297
07 328xi Price by sambo49
Dec 31, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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$23700 for 07 328 xi, 25000 mi, premium package, cold weather very good condition. Is this a good deal?
test drive was pleasant but noticed white smoke upon kick down on 2 instances but was fine afterward and could not see any further smoke. Is that a problem and how do I check it?
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'09 BMW 328i sedan quote by calvindawhite
Jan 01, 2009 (1:46 am)
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I live in socal and I got a quote for BMW 328i sedan with following option:
Premium Package
Navigation
Auto Trans
Xenon headlights
Metallic paint
 
I built it online and msrp comes out to me $42650
I got quoted for $39999 + tax
I think invoice is around $39000? I'm not too sure..
 
Also, with the .9% financing, I'm saving about $720 (20k down, 36months). And if I don't get it now, I'll lose it and it'll go up 2.9%, so if I can't push more than $720, there is no point waiting.
 
good deal?
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Re: '09 BMW 328i sedan quote [calvindawhite] by blueguydotcom
Jan 01, 2009 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: calvindawhite (Jan 01, 2009 1:46 am)

There's $1200 automatic transmission credit on 3 series cars. I would be shooting for 1k under invoice right now. This is carrying into 2009 from the internal memo I saw the other day. Sadly the .9% is gone tomorrow to be replaced by a 2.9.
 
Offer 1k below invoice and see what they say. There are plenty of dealers around SoCal that will play ball if they still have an 08 328i to sell. I know a few San Diego dealers still have 08 328s.
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2008 328 Lease and Trade In by bribor
Jan 01, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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I am looking at leasing a 2008 328 with:
 
- Premium Package
- Auto Trans
- IPod Connector
 
MSRP of $38,600 for $34,085. Seems like a great deal with a Money Factor of .00090 and residual at 58%. Problem is with the trade-in. I have a 2003 325i with Premium Package, Moonroof, Auto, Harmon Kardon Sound and Xenon Lights. KBB says for fair condition it is minimally worth $10,175 and dealer will not budge from $9,000. If I sell it on my own I could probably get about $12,500 for it but I think they may have worked the low price on the car in relation to the trade in value (which is creating a negative equity for me of $3,000).
 
Any ideas of if this is a good deal to pull off tomorrow?
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Re: '09 BMW 328i sedan quote [blueguydotcom] by calvindawhite
Jan 01, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jan 01, 2009 12:25 pm)

hmmm my dealer told me that the auto trans incentive for the 3 series isn't happening anymore for 2009 models..
 
Also, I actually want the 2009 instead of 2008 because the model changed (kinda).
With that said.. i still don't know if it's an okay price...
 
but thx for the info blueguy!
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Re: '09 BMW 328i sedan quote [calvindawhite] by blueguydotcom
Jan 01, 2009 (10:30 pm)
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Replying to: calvindawhite (Jan 01, 2009 5:47 pm)

I didn't say 2009 models, I said the credit is carrying into 2009 for 2008 3 series cars.
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Lease - Signed on Dec 31 by randyjstark
Jan 01, 2009 (10:33 pm)
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Here is how my deal came out so far, I think I made out pretty good - thoughts? Please note, that I will be doing a European Delivery (ED) of the car, which results in the substantial savings.
 
MSRP calculated by dealer was with 2009 pricing (price increase of 300), saving me a few bucks/month of my payment so I added another option!)
 
US MSRP:
Base BMW 2009 328i Xdrive: 35600
Options:
Nav: 2,100
Comfort Access: 500
Assist: 750
Destination: 825
Total MSRP (US): 39,775 --- This is the MSRP that was used to calculate my lease
 
European Delivery (ED) Invoice Pricing: Everything at 2008 invoice pricing + $250 dealer profit
Base: 30205
Navigation: 1,910
Comfort Access: 455
Assist: 685
Destination: 825
Total ED invoice (with dealer profit): $34,330 (Gross Cap Cost)
 
Money Factor: .00150 (buy rate)
Multiple Security Deposits lower my MF by .00049 to .00101
PA State Tax: 9%
Miles: 15k/year for 36 months
Residual Value: 60%
 
Note: If residual values and/or MF rates change, I can lock into a better rate anytime between now and the first week of March, which is pretty sick!
 
Dealer calculated payment to be:
$380.92/month
 
If I had elected for no options, the car would be only $344/month for a base model!
 
Note: On all ED purchases, BMW pays the 2nd months payment while the vehicle is in transit from europe to the USA.
 
Total Due at signing: 4498.57, (of which 3200 (MSD) will be refundable given good condition at turn in. - MSD also refundable in case of a total loss.)
First Payment: 380.92
Aquisition Fee: 725
Security deposits: 3200 ($400 x 8) - this is the 1 required security deposit plus 7 additional for MF discount
Licensing Fees: 192.65
 
Hopefully you were able to follow my numbers. With that said, do you think that I did a good job at negotiating this deal? The dealer did not charge a doc fee, but did charge a licensing fee of 192.65 due at delivery - I spoke to them about this before signing the papers because I wanted to get a vanity plate, so they will most likely be dropping this charge before I take delivery - I need to get the vehicle VIN # before I can order my vanity plate. Also, I do have the option of rolling the acquisition fee into the gross cap cost - do you think this is a good idea given my election to do the max MSD?
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Re: 2008 328 Lease and Trade In [bribor] by blueguydotcom
Jan 01, 2009 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: bribor (Jan 01, 2009 5:35 pm)

If you are negative on your current car and owe over 10k on a 2003, you probably shouldn't be getting a new car.
 
If you're set on a new car, the dealer is lying about the money factor. On 2008s it's a .00075. They're marking it up.
 
Also, never trade-in a car, but especially don't do it if you're getting negative equity. The dealer is suckering you.
 
The residual is 56% on 15k, 58% on 12k and 59% on 10k.
 
The price on the 328 is pretty good but don't give them your car and go 3k extra in the hole. That's a bad financial decision.
#9474 of 10297
Re: Lease - Signed on Dec 31 [randyjstark] by blueguydotcom
Jan 01, 2009 (10:41 pm)
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Replying to: randyjstark (Jan 01, 2009 10:33 pm)

Looks like a solid deal. ED is a blast - I did it in 2006.
 
I would stick with the MSDs. The ROI is so good that you simply won't find anything else that will save you that much money over the next 3 years.
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Re: 2008 328 Lease and Trade In [blueguydotcom] by bribor
Jan 02, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jan 01, 2009 10:36 pm)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, should never had purchased the car at end of lease. Values have dropped a lot. Problem is that now it seems like everything is breaking down on the car (even though only 56K miles) and it cost, out of warranty, almost $1,000 last year in maintenance/repairs.
 
Thanks for the advice on the money factor. It had been .00075 earlier and then they said it was raised to .00090 since no security deposit (although I am a previous owner and have never paid a security deposit that I can remember).
 
I may try to sell the car on the own and see what I can get for it. Do you think they have enough wiggle room to give me more on the trade (KBB wholesale rate is $10,200).
 
Thanks.

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