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BMW Repairshop screwed me by gatorbrick
Dec 16, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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I have a 2003 330i with 94,000 miles. A gaskette blew and I took it into the shop for repair. They are telling me I need a new engine. Does that sound right to any of you folks?
 
What should I pay for a 2009 BMW 335i 4dr with nav system and satellite radio, etc.?
 
Thanks
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Tire / Other Costs? by 1lotlizard
Dec 17, 2008 (6:00 am)
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I am considering a 1 or 3 series, but have read that run flat tires are a serious issue. Tirerack has fairly low survey results for the Turanzas, but it says Continentals are better. Is there a suitable way to address the tire issues -- excessive noise, premature wear, availability and cost if you need a replacement, etc? Do you regret paying BMW money and then being saddled with untenable tire issues? Also, what expenses (alignment, for example) have you experienced that are NOT part of BMW's all-inclusive service??? I currently have a 9-3 convertible that is smooth, quiet, holds 2 golf bags and a large suitcase in the trunk with the top down, and has no crazy tire issues. I don't want to pay for a star athlete that is required to play in inferior shoes!!! Any input is appreciated.
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Re: BMW Repairshop screwed me [gatorbrick] by roadburner
Dec 17, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: gatorbrick (Dec 16, 2008 5:40 pm)

have a 2003 330i with 94,000 miles. A gaskette blew and I took it into the shop for repair. They are telling me I need a new engine. Does that sound right to any of you folks?
 
How did the shop "screw" you?
Which gasket failed?
How long did you drive it after the failure?
If you ran the car without oil or coolant for any period of time you almost certainly did destroy your engine...
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Re: 2009 335i with xDrive manual tranny [espan] by sdboxer
Dec 17, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: espan (Dec 12, 2008 1:02 pm)

espan,
 
Yes I had to add training + MACO (or some such thing) + metallic paint to the invoice price shown by edmunds. It was 500 over that sum.
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Re: Tire / Other Costs? [1lotlizard] by nyccarguy
Dec 17, 2008 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: 1lotlizard (Dec 17, 2008 6:00 am)

Run Flat Tires: My Dad has an '07 X5 3.0si w/ Sport Suspension and run flat tires. After 30K miles (on a very heavy truck) I see NO signs of wear at all. The car rides so smoothly that it is almost Lexus-like (not a good thing, he liked his '04 X5 w/ Sport Suspension better).
 
My Mom has an '08 328xi w/ run flat tires and she hasn't experienced any noticable difference in tire noise. She says the car rides too harsh. It might be the run flat tires or the fact that she went from an '05 E60 530i to the '08 328xi.
 
If you so get a flat, then you are going to be out some cash. Run Flat tires are more expensive than conventional tires. Most shops won't repair a runflat tire (for liability purposes), so a flat means you don't get stuck on the side of the road, but you will have to eat the cost of a new tire. Since tires should ALWAYS be replaced in pairs, you will be out the cost of 2 new runflat tires.
 
Other costs:
 
Are you buying or leasing? If you're leasing, then all you have to worry about is scheduled maintenance. The car is BMW's problem at the end of the lease. If you are buying, then I would do a break in service (like they give the M cars at 1200 miles), then at least double BMW's recommended service intervals. I'd have the brake fluid and tranny fluid flushed every couple years. Alignments aren't covered.
 
No offense to your Saab ( I used to have an '00 9-3), but a BMW 1 series or 3 series on wooden wagon wheels is a superior driving car to your 9-3 convertible.
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Re: Tire / Other Costs? [nyccarguy] by blueguydotcom
Dec 18, 2008 (10:21 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Dec 17, 2008 7:10 pm)

Leased 3 series BMWs generally need their tires replaced as anything lower than a set amount is a charge at dealer prices for tires (think about 2k for tires). You supposedly can't return a leased 3 series with regular tires. I dumped my e90 lease so i have no idea if the guy who took over my 3 series returned it with the RFTs I gave him (I replaced my RFTs with real tires and the difference was significant - handling, noise, gas mileage).
 
BMWs in my experience do not need an alignment. Hard driving, track driving etc and each time I tried to get an alignment I was told the car is within spec, save the money.
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Re: Tire / Other Costs? [1lotlizard] by mattress2
Dec 19, 2008 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: 1lotlizard (Dec 17, 2008 6:00 am)

Any 1 or 3 series with sport package and 18 inch wheels will ride harshly on factory run-flats. These tires go flat easily, which can also result in rim damage. Both are very expensive, which is why BMW offers wheel/tire insurance. If you have a lease, you are basically stuck.Also, these tires are not generally available. So if you take a weekend road trip and get a flat, you could be stuck for several days waiting for a replacement. As a result, I am reluctant to take my 330i sport package on long trips. A great driving car, but it definitely has serious tire issues....
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Re-lease 2007 335i very pricey... by joesao
Dec 19, 2008 (11:33 am)
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I assumed a lease for a friend on a 2007 335i for $261/month because he put down $10k at lease signing. I have to turn the car back in January and BMWfs is quoting me >$600/mo and so are two dealers, to re-lease the car.
 
Why would the rate jump up so dramatically? Is there anything I can do about it? One dealer actually quoted me a 2008 335i with lower payments than this -- to me this doesn't make any sense. Any thoughts?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Re-lease 2007 335i very pricey... [joesao] by roadburner
Dec 19, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: joesao (Dec 19, 2008 11:33 am)

Any thoughts?
 
BMW FS will only offer it's best subvented lease rates on new 2008 and 2009 cars. The only time BMWFS offers low interest rates on used cars is when they want to move certain years and models of CPO units- and that money is for loans, not leases. If you like the car you have, buy it. Otherwise, rent the 2008.
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Re: Need advice on '08 328i purchase [mathers3] by wikibuyer
Dec 19, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: mathers3 (Dec 15, 2008 8:50 pm)

as a point of reference, in july '08 i negotiated for my '08 328i sedan, black on black, with auto trans, power seats, bluetooth and ipod with an MSRP of $36,995 for $33,259 (including a credit of $1500 for the auto trans. i guess it was $1500 in july and only $1200 now?) i don't have the exact invoice anymore but according to edmunds, the invoice is $34,125. i live in southern california. seems like you can do better. especially if they have lots of 2008s to move. i also posted my deal and some tips on wikibuyer.org

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