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Re: Help me figure if this is a good deal or not!! [eights38] by scotty100
Dec 10, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: eights38 (Dec 10, 2008 7:41 am)

Hi Matt
 
Ok, so this is where I get a little confused and I admit I should have pressed for more details/clarity when the dealer was throwing out numbers at me. But I admit I was kinda sitting there pondering the performance/handling rather than paying close enough attention to the numbers...
 
From the notes I have scribbled down in front of me I have the "Cost of Purchase" as $2274 which will be in addition to the $3000 down payment I am prepared to make. Regards sales tax...hmm...I believe it is part of the final monthly figure of $485.20...does any of that make sense?! Thanks for helping me understand...I'm completely useless in front of a car salesman for some reason!
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Re: Help me figure if this is a good deal or not!! [scotty100] by mvs1
Dec 10, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: scotty100 (Dec 10, 2008 8:04 am)

Is your total out of pocket $5274?
 
What dealer in CT are you working with. I live in the state as well. Keep in mind that there is a $299 doc fee. I've purchased my last several cars in NY to avoid this among other junk charges.
 
The tax in CT is rolled into the monthly payment, it should be reflected in what you received. However, you really need to clarify.
 
Ask for a complete break down of your costs at inception. Also ask for the invoice price, residual value, money factor, etc.
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Re: Help me figure if this is a good deal or not!! [mvs1] by scotty100
Dec 11, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: mvs1 (Dec 10, 2008 5:54 pm)

Hi
 
Yes, I really did need to clarify and spend some time working it out. Which I did yesterday. Basically the deal I've been offered is:
 
328xdrive
Sale Price: $38,500
Lease Period: 3 yrs 12k miles/yr
Monthly Payment: $485.20
Money due at inception: $3k
 
I have asked them to clarify what exactly the money at inception is. The response I got was first month payment, m/v charges & security deposit. That doesn't give me all the info I need as it still seems a little high. I would have thought that all those charges would amount to something around 1880 bucks so not sure where the other 1200 bucks to take it up to $3k is coming from. I asked for a detailed breakdown but so far not forthcoming. I am a little wary of doing this deal and will now shop around having got a lot more insight on the process from this board. Would still appreciate any feedback on this offer. Is it a decent deal? Thanks...
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Need Opinions on 09 335i Lease Quote by ichochochooseu
Dec 11, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Hi CarMan and everyone,
 
First off I would like to thank you all for all of the hard work that is put in to this forum. It has been extremely helpful for researching a new car lease.
 
I am looking at doing a 3 year lease for a 2009 335i Sedan and would like your opinions on the offer I was given below:
 
2009 BMW 335i Sedan
MSRP $49,050
Sale Price $47,650
Sales Tax $0 (BMW will cover sales tax for the month of December)
Lease Term 12k miles / 36 months
Residual 62%
Interest Rate 2.30%
Misc fees $725 Acquisition, $130 Doc Fee (There may be another <$100 fee or two I am missing) Monthly Payment $680 per month I would appreciate anyone's opinion on the terms above. Thanks, IChoChoChooseU
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Re: Need Opinions on 09 335i Lease Quote [ichochochooseu] by ahdanna
Dec 11, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: ichochochooseu (Dec 11, 2008 10:44 am)

IChoChoChooseU - can you explain the sales tax coverage? I haven't seen that anywhere else. So basically if you live in a state with 7% tax, you're getting that for free?
 
On your deal - do you know what the invoice price is? I'm seeing others getting invoice and I've been quoted $500 over invoice since November. I would expect about a $3500 difference from MSRP, but that's just a guess without knowing the options.Is it possible they buried the sales tax benefit in there?
 
Thanks,
ahdanna
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Re: Need Opinions on 09 335i Lease Quote [ichochochooseu] by xman7
Dec 11, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: ichochochooseu (Dec 11, 2008 10:44 am)

Hi,
 
Do you know if 'Sales Tax $0 (BMW will cover sales tax for the month of December) ' apply to all 3 series in purchase? I have just purchased my 328ci two days ago. But dealer didn't mention it to me at all. Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks.
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Negotiated prices on new 3 series leases by romathwa
Dec 11, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Hi. First time post, but have enjoyed the site as I get ready to negotiate on a new, leased 3-series when we turn the leased 328i (2004 w/ 2 years extd lease on orig 3 year term--we loved the car!) in this weekend. First of all, I'm quite surprised at the negotiated prices people are posting being so high/close MSRP in this environment?
 
BMW North America just purchased 15 acres to store all the vehicles that they can't sell and it's too expensive to hold in port. Don't buyers of big ticket items realize that the bargaining power is with the consumer right now?
 
With the sales environment as terrible as it has been, what has been the experience of others in getting the negotiated value down to move the car off the lot, particularly in SE states (GA, FL) where the economy is more than awful? I would think they'll do anything to create lot space.
 
Also, what are current residual rates and money factor rates on 3yr/36 mos leases?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Need Opinions on 09 335i Lease Quote [xman7] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 11, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: xman7 (Dec 11, 2008 1:31 pm)

The "No Sales Tax" is a Texas thing..
 
It isn't restricted to BMW..
 
Also... lease questions belong in the 3-series Lease Questions forum...
 
Thanks!
kyfdx
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Re: Negotiated prices on new 3 series leases [romathwa] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 11, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: romathwa (Dec 11, 2008 1:32 pm)

BMW North America just purchased 15 acres to store all the vehicles that they can't sell and it's too expensive to hold in port.
 
Do you have a link to that information?
 
Thanks!
kyfdx
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Re: Negotiated prices on new 3 series leases [kyfdx] by romathwa
Dec 11, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 11, 2008 1:47 pm)

I cannot find a link to the story but saw it on CNN either 2 or 3 weeks ago where they did a story in conjunction w/ Mercedes about looking for land to house all their cars. Mercedes looking in CA. BMW said to have bought either in NC or SC (where they have the manufacturing plant and Charleston is the largest port for BMW NA). I wouldn't expect BMW to put out a release saying that they'd bought the land as it would be a major red flag re: inventory.

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