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2008 BMW 328i Lease Price Paid by powerjo
Oct 24, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Hi,
 
2008 BMW 328i w/ Steptronic, Power and Heated Seats
 
MSRP $36345
Cap Cost $33874
Residual Value $21444 -- Rate .00075 -- 59%
36 months with 10K miles
 
$386.78 + Tax and $1749 drive off (1st month payment+Security Deposit[$450]+Bank Fee[$695]+Tax Bank Fee[$62.55]+Tags[$120])
 
Is this a good deal? Please be advised.
 
Thanks~
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [kyfdx] by bahn
Oct 25, 2008 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 22, 2008 3:17 am)

Thanks for the info! It encouraged me to contact one other dealer just North of downtown Chicago and they were able to sell me the car at a decent price. All smiles here!
 
I purchased a new 2008 BMW 335i, with many options and 14 miles on the odometer, at invoice price with 0.9% financing. What the dealer called invoice price already included MACO and Training Fees. So the car was sold to me 7.1% below MSRP plus sales tax.
 
They originally wanted to sell me one assembled in South Africa, but I wanted a 335i assembled in Munich, Germany. Many will say there are no differences in quality between the two assembly plants, which is probably true, but I did not want to take a chance on it. I owned two VWs, each assembled in Brazil and Germany, and experienced significant problems with the one assembled in Brazil. Perhaps I was unlucky, perhaps there is more to it than that.
 
Well, here is the deal I received:
 
2008 BMW 335i
MSRP: $49,550 (including destination charge)
True Invoice Price: $45,586
MACO + Training Fees: $454
Out-the-Door Price: $46,040 (plus sales tax)

Black Sapphire Metallic
Premium Package
Sport Package
Dakota Leather
STEPTRONIC Auto Trans
Heated Front Seats
Navigation System
 
If it wasn't for this forum, I would have certainly paid more. Thanks to all those that posted their sale details, as it allowed me to do my homework before approaching the dealerships.
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [bahn] by liche90
Oct 25, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: bahn (Oct 25, 2008 5:53 am)

wow thats a great deal! Where can you check if your car is made in Germany or South Africa? or does only the dealer have the info?
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [liche90] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 25, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: liche90 (Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am)

It's a letter in the VIN that's different... Unfortunately, I can't remember which it is.. (and, I used to have a S.A. sourced 325i.. )
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Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 by sammybmw
Oct 25, 2008 (9:39 pm)
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Purchased new 2008 BMW 335I PP,ZSP,Auto, Heated Seats, Satellite, USB... paid invoice according to edmunds.com and other sources plus $480 --- MINUS $1210 automatic rebate ---. Even BMW's web site mentions to ask about the free automatic. You can debate the $480 MACO and Training Fee but I paid less than invoice. Plus the .9% Financing Rate. I'm very happy with the deal.
  
The 2009 MY would cost $3105 more because of the increase in base price and sport package (ZSP), and the Logic 7 is now an option, and no rebate on the automatic. I keep my BMW's for a long time, still have a 94 325 so I care less that the 2008 is a year old.
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [kyfdx] by bahn
Oct 26, 2008 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 25, 2008 12:32 pm)

That's correct.
 
Look at the 7th letter from the end of the VIN...
 
If A, F, G or K, then the vehicle was assembled in Munich, Germany.
If B, C or D, then it was assembled in Dingolfing, Germany.
If P, E or J, then Regensburg, Germany.
If L, then Spartanburg, South Carolina
If N, then Rosslyn, South Africa
 
The window sticker should state the final assembly point. I also notice that on some cars, there may be a sticker at the end of the front passenger door that mentions the same information.
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Re: Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 [sammybmw] by bahn
Oct 26, 2008 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: sammybmw (Oct 25, 2008 9:39 pm)

Read your original post a few days ago before purchasing my 335i...
 
You definitely got a terrific deal.
 
No deals like that around my area after visiting many dealerships, except on 2008 demos.
 
One question, when did you purchase your 2008 335i for that kind of price?
 
I ask because the automatic transmission incentive supposedly ended on June 30th and there no longer seems to be mention of it on BMW's website. Several of the dealers I visited stated the offer was available earlier in the year.
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Re: Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 [bahn] by liche90
Oct 26, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: bahn (Oct 26, 2008 5:13 am)

well, the way that the economy is going, they are probably going to offer some more incentives in the up coming months.
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Re: Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 [liche90] by sammybmw
Oct 26, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: liche90 (Oct 26, 2008 12:44 pm)

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. BMW is getting away from the lease business where they leased their cars like banks did with mortgages. Now they ended up with a glut of cars which are worth far less than they took in lease payments. So to get away from this subprime market, they will have to offer rebates and low financing like the rest. They also plan to build and distribute less cars than before so they don't have to push cars out the door and suffer big losses on a car. I wish them luck. I bought my last BMW in 1994 and this is my second in 2008 so I'm not the kind of customer that keeps the money flowing to them,
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Re: Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 [sammybmw] by drtravel
Oct 27, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: sammybmw (Oct 26, 2008 4:51 pm)

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. BMW is getting away from the lease business
 
For years BMW has been subvented their leases with artificial high residuals and much lower than market interest rates (i.e. the money factor). A majority of BMWs were leases so I also thought they were in the car rental rather than car sales business. While BMW couldn't compete based on price but by playing around with lease numbers, they could definitely compete on the monthly lease payment as other auto manufacturers choose their residuals and money factors based more on reality.
 
This finally caught up with BMW so now their residuals and money factors are just like everybody elses. Of course their monthly lease payments have gone up big time although they now seem to advertise low lease payments requiring a huge down payment. Many are now finding that BMW residuals are often lower than their competitors - a dose of reality for those who thought their cars had higher resale values than the competition.

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