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Re: BMW 100k maintainence plans costs? [speedy19] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 21, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: speedy19 (Oct 21, 2008 8:44 am)

Well.. it covers more than just the engine, but you are correct, it's not nearly as comprehensive as the limited warranty that comes with the car, new.. Even a CPO car is still a used car..
 
I guess it all depends on your risk tolerance. Personally, I would never own a 7-series.. and, I don't have access to your bank balance, so I'm not sure what to tell you...
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What happened to the good deals?? by bahn
Oct 21, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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After reading several dozen posts concerning prices quoted by dealers over the past several months, I am miffed that no dealer in the Chicago area appears prepared to reduce MSRP by anything more than 5.5% on 2008 335i models.
 
For the 2009 models, the discount is no more than 5% (not too bad considering that these vehicles are just now arriving on dealer lots and will not soon be last year's model.)
 
Invoice price is about 8% below MSRP on the 335i, yet any deal close to it (or below it) seems nothing more than a pipe dream. Every lengthy negotiation ends up being no more than 2.5% to 3% above invoice for the 2008 and 2009 models, respectively. I am running out of dealers to visit!
 
What I am seeing is something like this on a $50,000 MSRP 2008 335i sedan:
Selling Price = Invoice + MACO + Training Fee + $800
 
For a $51,500 MSRP 2009 335i sedan:
Selling Price = Invoice + MACO + Training Fee + $1100
 
Perhaps the free upgrade to an automatic transmission deal earlier in the year resulted in people quoting deals effectively below invoice. I now find myself hesitating to purchase a new BMW because of what I read on this forum. I feel that I am not getting a great deal (except for the special financing, which was available for most of those who posted and claimed below invoice pricing.)
 
Is it a bad time to buy now? Is it best to hold off for a few months? Any advice would certainly be appreciated.
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [bahn] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 22, 2008 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: bahn (Oct 21, 2008 7:50 pm)

The supply of '08s is dwindling... It's possible that they don't need as many incentives to get rid of the remaining stock. Plus, they've expanded the 0.9% financing to almost the entire '08 model line.. On $40K, that's worth an easy $3000 over conventional financing.
 
The pricing examples you give are historically low by BMW standards.. Especially for the '09s, which are just coming out.. Add in the 0.9% for the '08s, and that is also a pretty good deal.
 
It happens every year... as the supply of the prior model year cars goes down, eventually they kill the incentives, or pay lump sums to the dealer. The deal might not be quite as good as August, but I doubt it will get any better.. (for the '08s).
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Good Lease? by maclicks
Oct 24, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Appreciate any feedback on this lease NJ dealer
 
2008 Alpine White BMW 328i Prem, auto, heated seats and ipod adpater
36 months 10k miles
 
MSRP $38,700
Invoice $36,355
Selling price (including any discounts from MFR or Dealer) $36,250
Residual $22,833 ( 59%)
Money factor .00075
 
Breakdown of inception fees.
 
$449 (1st mos payment inc. NJ tax) + $725 (bank fee) + $268.50 (motor vehicle) + $199 (doc fee) + $13.93 (upfront tax on doc fee)
 
$449 month
$1655.43 due at signing
 
They would also willing to pay part of my last month lease on current BMW 328xi coupe which I leased from another dealer.
 
Any info or comments appreciated.
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Re: Good Lease? [maclicks] by liche90
Oct 24, 2008 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: maclicks (Oct 24, 2008 7:02 am)

I think thats a great deal. and its a plus that they agreeded to pay for your other lease as well.
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2008 BMW 328i Lease Price Paid by powerjo
Oct 24, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Hi,
 
2008 BMW 328i w/ Steptronic, Power and Heated Seats
 
MSRP $36345
Cap Cost $33874
Residual Value $21444 -- Rate .00075 -- 59%
36 months with 10K miles
 
$386.78 + Tax and $1749 drive off (1st month payment+Security Deposit[$450]+Bank Fee[$695]+Tax Bank Fee[$62.55]+Tags[$120])
 
Is this a good deal? Please be advised.
 
Thanks~
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [kyfdx] by bahn
Oct 25, 2008 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 22, 2008 3:17 am)

Thanks for the info! It encouraged me to contact one other dealer just North of downtown Chicago and they were able to sell me the car at a decent price. All smiles here!
 
I purchased a new 2008 BMW 335i, with many options and 14 miles on the odometer, at invoice price with 0.9% financing. What the dealer called invoice price already included MACO and Training Fees. So the car was sold to me 7.1% below MSRP plus sales tax.
 
They originally wanted to sell me one assembled in South Africa, but I wanted a 335i assembled in Munich, Germany. Many will say there are no differences in quality between the two assembly plants, which is probably true, but I did not want to take a chance on it. I owned two VWs, each assembled in Brazil and Germany, and experienced significant problems with the one assembled in Brazil. Perhaps I was unlucky, perhaps there is more to it than that.
 
Well, here is the deal I received:
 
2008 BMW 335i
MSRP: $49,550 (including destination charge)
True Invoice Price: $45,586
MACO + Training Fees: $454
Out-the-Door Price: $46,040 (plus sales tax)

Black Sapphire Metallic
Premium Package
Sport Package
Dakota Leather
STEPTRONIC Auto Trans
Heated Front Seats
Navigation System
 
If it wasn't for this forum, I would have certainly paid more. Thanks to all those that posted their sale details, as it allowed me to do my homework before approaching the dealerships.
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [bahn] by liche90
Oct 25, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: bahn (Oct 25, 2008 5:53 am)

wow thats a great deal! Where can you check if your car is made in Germany or South Africa? or does only the dealer have the info?
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Re: What happened to the good deals?? [liche90] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 25, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: liche90 (Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am)

It's a letter in the VIN that's different... Unfortunately, I can't remember which it is.. (and, I used to have a S.A. sourced 325i.. )
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Automatic on 2008 335I decreases dealer invoice by $1210 by sammybmw
Oct 25, 2008 (9:39 pm)
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Purchased new 2008 BMW 335I PP,ZSP,Auto, Heated Seats, Satellite, USB... paid invoice according to edmunds.com and other sources plus $480 --- MINUS $1210 automatic rebate ---. Even BMW's web site mentions to ask about the free automatic. You can debate the $480 MACO and Training Fee but I paid less than invoice. Plus the .9% Financing Rate. I'm very happy with the deal.
  
The 2009 MY would cost $3105 more because of the increase in base price and sport package (ZSP), and the Logic 7 is now an option, and no rebate on the automatic. I keep my BMW's for a long time, still have a 94 325 so I care less that the 2008 is a year old.

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