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Re: Lease notes from my experience with BMW [gplayerjr] by blueguydotcom
Mar 14, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: gplayerjr (Mar 14, 2008 9:09 am)

It's the client advisor that will teach you how to use your BMW properly, assist with service issues, as well as keeping you "completely satisfied" as an owner
 
I doubt you mean teach the owner to hit the apex correctly. I spent a grand total of about 5 minutes with my salesperson for the delivery of my first e46. My e90, I talked with the smartly dressed German guy at the ED center for maybe two minutes. Anything I need to know I get from reading the manual. I have zero interest in listening to someone tell me how to tune a radio.
 
As for service, I don't and never will contact a salesperson about service as he has nothing to do with it. You call service for a service appointment, not a salesguy.
  
take the time to get to know my client and develop a professional business relationship
 
My SA on my first 3 series spent two test drives with me - first a 325i 5MT ZSP. He called me a few weeks later when they got a 330i with 6 MT into stock. We unwrapped what would end up my 330i 6MT ZHP and drove it. The deal was done in about 1.5-2 hours including the detailing/prep of the car. I brought my bro-in-law to him, they drove a 325i 5MT ZSP and it was all done in under 2 hours. For my ED, I called him, got the price and that was that, In total I've spent maybe 5-6 hours around Jim. That's a perfect professional relationship...I come to him, tell him what I want, get it and pay him.
 
I don't call him about service, about issues or really anything. I call him if I need to buy a car or if I am helping a friend buy a BMW. And now that he's retired, I'm stuck trying to find a decent SA for my next purchase. If I go ED again, I will probably call a guy from Bimmerfest as I know I can get the fast, no hassle, no "so what do you do for a living?" junk.
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Re: Lease notes from my experience with BMW [blueguydotcom] by gplayerjr
Mar 14, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 14, 2008 9:54 am)

I'm over it guy.....you buy it your way, and I'll sell it my way! We don't have to be best friends with our clients, but a personalized delivery surely beats a see the keys, see the road, see ya later approach! Truly you understand, and I wish you well with your future buying experiences!
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Re: Lease notes from my experience with BMW [gplayerjr] by ursamajor1
Mar 14, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: gplayerjr (Mar 14, 2008 10:14 am)

Different customers have different requirements, and different sales people have different approaches. Since you're posting here, you're quite likely an enthusiast who cares about the marque, and it sounds like you do right by your customers. That's excellent and by no means universal - but it's also not always necessary. The buyers on this board are by and large more informed than the average customer, and will need (and tolerate) less hand-holding; they're also probably more driven by the deal. I picked up an Acura MDX Tech last month (partially driven by the side-by-side review vs. the X5 3.0 in the Roundel last year). I did a lot of research online, and found an internet price that I liked. I appreciated a) the savings on what is ultimately a commodity industrial product, however much I enjoy it, and b) the honesty and efficiency of my sales guy (at a dealership 800 miles from my home). I didn't need to be stroked or "sold", and I certainly didn't need him to show me how everything worked in the car. I just wanted a good price and honesty; I got those, and since then I've recommended several customers to him and I'll keep doing so.
 
I think your approach is a great one; just realize that while some customers absolutely need the attention and hand holding - and in that case, they should pay for it in a higher price - others don't. Everybody's different. Keep up the good work!
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Re: About to lease a 328i conv but have questions. first time! [flychunjae] by flychunjae
Mar 15, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: flychunjae (Mar 12, 2008 11:59 pm)

so i've talked with their internet sales rep and she said there's a good chance i'll be approved but she said i should come to the dealership to apply for credit for the lease rather than applying online.
 
wouldn't it be best to try for approval from BMWFS rather than going to the dealership and getting a rate from there?
 
i just don't want to go there maybe get rejected or them trying to sell me another car that i wouldn't want.
 
is BMWFS strict on the credit rating?
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Re: About to lease a 328i conv but have questions. first time! [flychunjae] by blueguydotcom
Mar 15, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: flychunjae (Mar 15, 2008 4:15 pm)

you can apply for the lease via fax, etc. But first agree upon terms.
 
1. Get the final price of the car negotiated before you EVER talk payments
2. Get the exact fees they're charging you
3. Get the MF, residual, etc all settled before giving them your information
 
All of this can be handled by phone/fax. #1 is super important when leasing. You negotiate just as if you were buying the car.
 
4. You may want to consider Multiple Security Deposits (your internet sales rep should be able to explain them) as nothing currently can offer that same ROI. If the sales rep says MSDs are no good, come back here and we'll explain them to you. MSDs offer you 7+% ROI, which clobbers everything right now.
 
Finally, BMWFS is pretty easy going about credit. 700+ and you're golden with them.
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Re: About to lease a 328i conv but have questions. first time! [flychunjae] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 15, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: flychunjae (Mar 15, 2008 4:15 pm)

BMWFS might approve you on-line, but they won't give you a rate..
 
The argument I've heard from BMW CAs is that the dealership can sometimes get you approved, if you fall just under the line... but, if you've already been rejected by BMWFS on-line, then they can't do anything about it..
 
So.. even if pre-approved, you'll still have to fight with the dealer for the best rate, so you might as well go through them, first.. That way, if your credit score is borderline, then they may be able to help.
 
Good luck!
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2007 by jrkfla
Mar 16, 2008 (5:21 am)
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can get a new 2007, with 9 miles on it, basic 328 4 door with leatherette. only option is automatic. dealer is offering 29k. brand new car, full warranty. i think list was 34.
 
i think i can do better, get another 1k. anyone have any comments or help? need to get a car on monday....
 
comments welcome!!!!!
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Re: 2007 [jrkfla] by pdude1
Mar 16, 2008 (10:53 pm)
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Replying to: jrkfla (Mar 16, 2008 5:21 am)

I've been getting "Internet Sales" quotes for a 335i for 1200 to 1500 over invoice (includes maco, advertising, etc.) except for license and taxes. With the addons (prem, sport, ipod, easy acc) it comes to about 47K for manual and a little over 48K for auto. Does that sound good? I know a few months ago, most of the salespeople said they would only do at a max 500-1000 under msrp (not invoice).
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Re: 2007 [pdude1] by x021627
Mar 17, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: pdude1 (Mar 16, 2008 10:53 pm)

a friend easily got a 335 sedan with sport, cold, premium, ipod, nav for $500 over invoice. Not alot of work at all by him.
 
Good Luck!
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Re: 2007 [x021627] by pdude1
Mar 19, 2008 (12:42 am)
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Replying to: x021627 (Mar 17, 2008 5:27 pm)

Was that 500 over invoice and final? Or did the MACO and other advertising fees get added on?

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