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BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Buying Experience in DFW [dannyfreed] by salute07
Mar 10, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: dannyfreed (Mar 10, 2008 7:10 am)

Thanks for the info! Sorry if this is basic info I should know but what is MACO?
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Re: Buying Experience in DFW [salute07] by dannyfreed
Mar 10, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: salute07 (Mar 10, 2008 7:23 am)

MACO is a 'marketing area co-op' fee - it is sort of an advertising fee charged and is usually $200-400.
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Re: Buying Experience in DFW [dannyfreed] by skepmod
Mar 10, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: dannyfreed (Mar 10, 2008 7:10 am)

Yes Dannyfreed. My deal was $900 over invoice including MACO $350+ Training $180. In all $31,500 + TTL (about $2300).
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Re: Buying Experience in DFW [skepmod] by dannyfreed
Mar 10, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: skepmod (Mar 10, 2008 9:58 am)

Skepmod -
 
Just to be absolutely certain, are you saying your dealer made $470 profit on your deal ($900 over invoice, less $530 for MACO and Training) or that he made $900 profit once you already added the $530 for MACO and Training to your invoice? Again, just trying to compare apples to apples with my dealings. Thanks and sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Buying Experience in DFW [dannyfreed] by skepmod
Mar 10, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: dannyfreed (Mar 10, 2008 10:53 am)

Dealer made $470 ($900 over invoice, less $530 for MACO and Training). I paid $31,500 on a $33,175 MSRP. Depending on the car and options you buy, I have read that you should expect a discount between $1200 and $2500.
 
I saw your earlier posting. Congratulations on walking out when you were bait-and-switched. Good luck on your purchase.
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328i seden offer - Good Deal? by vianna
Mar 10, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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I got this offer, is it a good deal?
 
(Everything on invoice price)
328i Seden $29,810
Apline White $0
Auto $1,210
Sport Package $1,455
Paddle Shifters $90
Premium Package $2,960
Ipod Adaptor $365
Destination Charge $775
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Total $36,665
 
They offer me $37,900 and they said it is $600 over invoice.
 
However, when I added $600 to the above total, it is only $37,265.00. Then I questioned the sales manager that is not my number I add up. He said it includes Maco $380 and Training $180. (still $75 missing when I do the match at home) and those Maco & Training fee are part of the invoice price.
 
I am so confused now!!!
Maco & Training are included in invoice price?
Is it a good deal?
 
Thanks!
- First Time Potential BMW Buyer!
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Re: 328i seden offer - Good Deal? [vianna] by skepmod
Mar 11, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: vianna (Mar 10, 2008 3:30 pm)

Vianna, from what I have read, MACO and Training fees are legit costs that the dealer incurs. MACO pays for BMW advertising in the area and Training pays for (I believe) training dealership staff.
 
I just placed an order for a 328i. I paid $900 over invoice, including MACO and Training fees ($530). So, the dealer made $370.
 
Hope this information helps you come up with a good number to counter with.
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Re: 328i seden offer - Good Deal? [skepmod] by andynn002
Mar 11, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: skepmod (Mar 11, 2008 6:25 am)

When i took the 328i sedan for a lease, the selling price was just 465$ above invoice.The only extras i paied was for the tire protection plan and bank charges of 725$.
The invoice price does include MACO and Training fees from the dealer side. I guess the edmunds invoice price doesnt include this.
Good luck !!!
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Re: 328i seden offer - Good Deal? [andynn002] by skepmod
Mar 11, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: andynn002 (Mar 11, 2008 6:44 am)

Remember, not all dealerships may incur MACO fees. If it isn't part of a cooperative advertising area, they may not charge the fee.
 
That said, I don't understand the need to break it out as a fee. When I buy groceries, Albertsons doesn't charge me a separate fee for their ad budget.
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Re: 328i seden offer - Good Deal? [skepmod] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 11, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: skepmod (Mar 11, 2008 8:16 am)

If you negotiate for $XXX over invoice, they are going to break out any differences...
 
If you offer $37K for a car, then there shouldn't be any extra "invoice charges".

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