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Re: Factory Order vs. In Stock [kjenkins696] by tcn2k
Mar 13, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: kjenkins696 (Mar 13, 2007 4:54 pm)

I have always order my car; I have better negotiation when I do so since I tell them I am not in a rush and it's a guarantee sell for the dealer even before the car hits the lot.
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2007 328I Coup Pricing assistance by newcarguy3
Mar 13, 2007 (7:26 pm)
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328i coup w/ Prem, sport, Manual Trans, Mats and Metallic Paint. 36/mo 12k/yr. MSRP =$40,620 Purchase Price $38,500. My payment is $503 + tax and total out of pocket is $1541 which includes my first payment.
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Lease on 328i Coupe by coupelover
Mar 13, 2007 (10:06 pm)
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Please help with info on leasing a 328i coupe. With 4461. down payment, what should my monthly payment be on a car that has an MSRP of 42,670? This would be for a 36 month lease at 12,000 miles/yr. Thanks much!!
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Re: Lease on 328i Coupe [coupelover] by blueguydotcom
Mar 13, 2007 (11:32 pm)
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Replying to: coupelover (Mar 13, 2007 10:06 pm)

What's your negotiated purchase price?
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Re: Lease on 328i Coupe [blueguydotcom] by coupelover
Mar 14, 2007 (3:06 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 13, 2007 11:32 pm)

This has not yet been determined. This dealer says they stay pretty much at MSRP. Maybe $400 off. Thanks!
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Sedan lease price by coupelover
Mar 14, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Hi, I also need advice re: this deal
 
328i Sedan with premium, nav, metallic paint, satellite radio with an MSRP of 40,575 negotiated down to 39,950.
 
Out of pocket is 4464.67 which includes $2500 security deposit and fees - no acquisition fee is included in this, but a 599.50 dealer services fee is.
 
The monthly payment is 450.70 which includes tax (425.19 +
25.51 tax)
 
This is all so confusing to me. I really wanted the coupe but took this thinking it was a good deal - was I wrong?
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Re: Lease on 328i Coupe [coupelover] by blueguydotcom
Mar 14, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: coupelover (Mar 14, 2007 3:06 am)

This has not yet been determined. This dealer says they stay pretty much at MSRP. Maybe $400 off. Thanks!
 
Not a dealer to buy from under any circumstances then. Always negotiate price first, then let them know you're leasing. You're looking at a common car in a competitive marketplace...there's 1500-2500 room for them to subtract from MSRP. Walk away.
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Re: Sedan lease price [coupelover] by blueguydotcom
Mar 14, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: coupelover (Mar 14, 2007 3:39 am)

328i Sedan with premium, nav, metallic paint, satellite radio with an MSRP of 40,575 negotiated down to 39,950.
 
Again, decamp. $500 off on a 335i sedan?! Email around your area asking for the best deals on the exact car you want. Contact at least 10 dealers. you'll get a better off from the internet department for sure. $500 off is laughable.
 
Out of pocket is 4464.67 which includes $2500 security deposit and fees - no acquisition fee is included in this, but a 599.50 dealer services fee is
 
Unless that 2500 is for multiple security deposits, run as they're robbing you blind. Go to leaseguide.com to read up on all elements of leasing.
 
You always need to do the following:
 
1. Negotiate a price - on a 3 sedan you're talking in the neighborhood of 2k off msrp. Coupes 1500 off or better.
2. Find out the exact residual
3. Find out the MF that BMWFS is offering
4. Find out the MF your dealer wants to charge you - don't allow more than a point or two if you're really desperate for the car.
5. Look into possible MSDs - multiple security deposits - they're the only money you really want to put down on the car.
6. Ask about all the feels they're going to bundle into the car - some dealers go buck wild with bogus fees or run them up.
 
7. Finally, go to http://www.leaseguide.com and use their calculator to run the dealership's numbers. If they don't come back within a few bucks of the dealer's numbers, somebody is pulling a fast one on you.
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Any way to reduce this offer further? Need help! by costero
Mar 14, 2007 (3:48 pm)
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Hi,
 
I got an offer for a 328, xenon, red barrique, premium, navigation, automatic. Coming direct from Germany on boat on 3/26.
 
Dealer MSRP: $41,075
Dealer Invoice: $38,380
My Price: $38,780
Doc fee $55
Sales tax $3,203.89
License fee $315
CA tire fee $7
Total: $42,360.89
 
Edmunds lists this as $37,650 (including $695 destination charge),so I'll be paying $1,130 over Edmunds invoice.
Any tips to reduce this offer?
 
Thanks in advance for your help!!!
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Re: Sedan lease price [coupelover] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 14, 2007 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: coupelover (Mar 14, 2007 3:39 am)

$40575 MSRP
$39950 Selling price
$38075 CAP cost (selling price - $2500 + $625 acq.fee)
 
3yr/36K lease? (you don't say)
 
.00125 money factor
 
63% Residual
 
If I run the numbers that way, I get a payment roughly equal to yours..
 
So... what we have is a $625 discount from MSRP, but a $600 dollar dealer fee.. Basically, you are paying MSRP for the car, but at least the financing isn't being marked up..
 
Really.. a fair deal would be the same payment (assuming your lease term is 3yr/36K), with only $1000 as a CAP reduction, giving you a little under $3000 due at lease signing... In other terms, about $1500 less than what they are offering. A good deal? About $2000 less.
 
regards,
kyfdx

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