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Re: Please help w/ 335i Lease/Buy [jtla] by wbb56
Feb 11, 2007 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: jtla (Feb 10, 2007 8:00 pm)

Sounds like I should get solid quotes for both and see--but I have a feeling that the lease deal is going to be a little better--especially with max. security deposits. The best finance rates available for new cars-48 months-in the area (Wilmington, NC) are around 7% (6.97). I'll have to check into the sales tax issue too-
 
Thanks very much for your help!
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Re: Advice Needed: 2007 328i Sedan Lease [bubulik] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 12, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: bubulik (Feb 11, 2007 8:43 pm)

The good news? Given the numbers that the dealer has provided, his calculations are on the money..
 
The bad news? This isn't a very good lease deal.
 
A discount of $1047 from the MSRP might be a decent deal on a car that only has a spread of around $2300 between MSRP and invoice... but, then they are jacking up every other number.
 
If they would use the base MF of .0017 w/o security deposit, the payment would drop to $358/mo. and $365/mo. respectively.
 
I would be able to live with that scenario.. Some other points...
 
1) Don't be fooled into thinking that the 24 month lease is almost the same price as the 36 month lease... You are amortizing that large cap cost reduction over fewer months.. The actual difference in price is about $60/mo, once you figure in all of the costs.
 
2) Take $400 of your cap cost reduction, and make the security deposit. While this will make your payment go up slightly, you will get the $400 back at the end of the lease, and will save money overall.
 
Ideally, you wouldn't make a cap cost reduction, at all... but, assuming that is what you want to do, it should look like this (for a fair deal).
 
34870 MSRP
33823 Selling price
32273 CAP cost (selling price + $825 acq.fee - $2375 cap cost reduction) *giving them extra $200 on acq.fee-using $400 for security deposit*
3yr/30K lease
64% residual
.00155 base money factor w/security deposit.
 
Payment = $361/mo.+ tax = $394/mo.including tax
 
Due at signing: The same $3650, but with $400 security deposit being returned at lease end.
 
Hope this helps,
kyfdx
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Re: Advice Needed: 2007 328i Sedan Lease [kyfdx] by bubulik
Feb 12, 2007 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 12, 2007 9:19 am)

Thx kyfdx; yr analysis is very helpful.
 
Couple of questions:
 
1. You mentioned a discount of $1047 from the MSRP might be a decent deal; from yr research what is the avg discount off MSRP across the country?
 
2. You also mentioned ideally I would not mk a cost cap reduction. How much wud I save if I didnt have a cost cap reduction but pay a higher monthly? Do you think this is a better way to a lease?
 
3. For a 24 mo/12k lease, how much residual should I consider in my calc?
 
Thx again for all yr help.
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Good deal? 2007 328i Coupe Lease in SoCal by bmwfan07
Feb 12, 2007 (6:04 pm)
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Hi I just got a quote from an internet dealer in SoCal.
 
2007 328i Coupe;
Pleatherette;
15K mi;
36 mths;
Sports ($1000), Powerseats w/ Driver Memory ($995), BMW Assist ($750), Automatic;
Destination fee ($695)
 
MSRP: $40,490
Invoice: $37,870
Selling Price: $38,870
Net Cap: $35,851.76
Drive off: $5000
Tax: 8.25%
Monthly lease: $466.86 including tax.
 
What do you think? Can I do better?
 
Thanks.
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My quote by amg06
Feb 12, 2007 (7:35 pm)
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Sorry I just copied over from what the have sent me but reading this forum this sounds really high. what am i missing and what can i negotiate with. Location So Cal.
  
Here are the rates you requested:
  
2007 BMW 335 i (M6) 2dr RWD Coupe
Price: $ 47,820.00
Exterior Color: Jet Black
Interior Color: Saddle Brown/Black
    
    
VEHICLE DETAILS
      
  Engine: 3.0L DOHC 6-Cylinder Turbocharged STD
  Radio: Anti-Theft AM/FM Stereo CD/MP3 Player STD
  Monotone Paint Application STD
  Transmission: 6-Speed STEPTRONIC Automatic $1210
  Sport Package $910
  Premium Package $2230
  Comfort Access Keyless Entry $455
  On-Board Navigation System w/iDrive $1910
    
LEASE
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Bank BMW Financial
Term 36 Months
Miles Per Year 12,000 Miles
Drive Off Amount $2,100
Payable To BMW
Monthly Payment $714.93 (tax included, $663.51 pre-tax)
Residual Rate 60%
Residual Amount $29,172.00
  
At 15,000 miles, the payment goes up to $742.88 with tax.
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328xi coupe Maryland lease/buy? by ksailing
Feb 13, 2007 (12:34 pm)
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Pretty loaded 328xi
MSRP 48590
Sell 47590
2500 drive off
20K mi
24 mo lease 753 per month
money factor= 3.5%
 
Deal or no ? Money factor seems high to me...
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Left over 2006 M3s by rich644
Feb 13, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Greetings, great forum. My local dealer has 4 left over 2006 M3 convertibles.
 
I was wondering if you were aware of any incentives and/or special lease rates to clear these out. I remember reading in December there were some really good leases on left over convertibles.
 
Now its two months later, the cars are still on the lot and the 2007 retractable hard tops are almost here, so I am hoping there will be a combination of large discounts off of MSRP and an attractive lease program on the left over 2006s.
 
Maybe wishful thinking, but I was hoping it may be a chance to get an M3 for the price of a regular 3 series. Any thoughts, insights would be appreciated.
 
Rich
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Re: Left over 2006 M3s [rich644] by smithsonga
Feb 13, 2007 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: rich644 (Feb 13, 2007 2:40 pm)

This is interesting news. With a new M3 coming and the 335i convertibles coming. I would think they would have good incentives.
 
Where are you? I might be interested in one of those.
 
thx
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Re: Left over 2006 M3s [smithsonga] by blueguydotcom
Feb 13, 2007 (11:30 pm)
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Replying to: smithsonga (Feb 13, 2007 4:15 pm)

Doubtful. The 3 series convertible has sold well without any support. M3 verts (why these exist is a mystery) also sell really well - if i'm not mistaken they actually sell more M3 verts per year than 330cics. Getting an M3 and then weakening the chassis and adding 400 lbs just doesn't make sense to me, but whatever.
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Please comment on this lease deal by myboyslandc
Feb 14, 2007 (7:10 am)
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All,
 
Just received this initial quote on a 335i lease. Can one of the lease gurus here comment? The MF looks high to me.
 
Thanks.
 
MSRP 46790
Selling Price 44495
Down Payment 2500
Residual 29477
Term 36mo/15k yr
Money Facor 0.0019
First pymt 562.04
Sec Deposit 600.00
Out of pocket 3662.04
 
Also, I'm in VA so sales tax is about 3%.

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