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Re: Trade-in Values [abarr566] by jtla
Jan 20, 2007 (12:31 am)
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Replying to: abarr566 (Jan 19, 2007 9:35 pm)

I don't think it is fair to compare trade-in price with the price that you could get from the end users. Of course, you got more money by selling on your own -- you earned it. Put ads in the paper or on the web, answer calls/reply inquiries, make appointments with (and wait for) potential buyers for test drives (possibly over 2 weekends), negotiate the price, go to bank with buyer for cash or cashier's check, etc. Those are time consuming. But, overall, I think the biggest risk is dealing with total strangers and they KNOW where you live. (I know, I know, 99% of car buyers are good guys).
 
Dealers need to make a profit on reselling the trades they take in. The profit should be reasonable, the definition of which may depend on how you value those tasks mentioned above. I heard most dealers make more money from used-car sales, financing, and services than from selling new cars.
 
The way to avoid being ripped off on the trade-in is doing your homework, and negotiating like you would on the price of your new car. Get an idea of the value of your trade from Kelly Blue Book's website, check on autotraders.com, local newspaper, eBay, etc. Set a price range which you would accept. And be willing to walk off the door if the price you are offered for your trade is below that range.
 
Doing homework on the value of your trade may be more important than doing homework on the new car prices. In most markets, dealers face competitions selling new cars. But for the trade-in, their only competition at that moment is YOU. Don't give back to the dealer the money you just saved through negotiating a great price on the new car.
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Re: just got a lease [bmwpanic] by bmwpanic
Jan 20, 2007 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: bmwpanic (Jan 12, 2007 6:39 pm)

ok good news!
 
After posting my lease deal on here several people said it was bad. A competitive dealer offered me a much lower price and my current dealer matched it. Reserving a car with some cash locks the car for you but doesnt neccesarilly lock the terms so in the end:
 
328i w/ automatic, heated and power seats. everything else standard.
MSRP:$35865
Term:36 month lease
Mileage: 12k/year
MF=.00190
Down Payment: $2,500
Monthly Payment: $399 per month including 6% tax and aq fee
  
good luck!
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Re: just got a lease [bmwpanic] by petexiao
Jan 22, 2007 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: bmwpanic (Jan 20, 2007 10:16 am)

I got a similar basic model 328i with only metalic paint.
 
MSRP 34845
Negotiated price 33857
Acq fee 625
Capital cost 34482
MF 0.0019
Res factor 61%(15k miles/year)
Security Deposit 500
Mthly payment 500 after 7.75% tax
 
Is this reasonable?
Thanks and any comments will be appreciated.
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Re: New to Washingon DC area [yank23ees] by brifromdc
Jan 23, 2007 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: yank23ees (Oct 08, 2002 2:33 pm)

Fairfax BMW in Merrifield, VA just finsihed construction on a huge new service center. I'd check them out.
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DC Area Lease Cost on 328i by brifromdc
Jan 23, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Hi - getting ready to start negotiating for a 2007 328i. Can anyone share some quotes or prices paid for that car. Also, let me know what dealer you used - Fairfax, Passport or VOB. Thanks
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LeaseWise or similar fee services by brifromdc
Jan 23, 2007 (9:46 am)
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I read an article on LeaseWise recently - for $330 they get you 5 lease bids from local dealers. Has anyone had experience with this group or another similar type of service? They say it is much better than the free quotes you can get. Thanks
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Re: just got a lease [petexiao] by misterep
Jan 23, 2007 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: petexiao (Jan 22, 2007 10:43 pm)

You should be in the $450 range
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Re: just got a lease [misterep] by petexiao
Jan 23, 2007 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: misterep (Jan 23, 2007 11:02 am)

Thanks. But how to get another 50 bucks off?
Which value above is not correct?
Dealer also mentioned extra 6 security deposit which can
bring down MF by 0.00007*6 = 0.00042 and decrease
monthly payment by around 23 bucks.
Do you mean this?
 
Please comment and I really appreciate it.
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Re: just got a lease [petexiao] by misterep
Jan 23, 2007 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: petexiao (Jan 23, 2007 11:24 am)

You need to improve your negotiated price to 32,600...that would be about 40 bucks there.
 
Good luck....
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Re: Helpful hints for leasing (corrected) [jkstone] by Andyboy1974
Jan 23, 2007 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: jkstone (Jan 13, 2007 5:41 pm)

This is an excellent post and I have learned a lot from it. BUT THERE IS ONE MAJOR PROBLEM (that I had).
 
I went to a dealer in South Florida today to lease a 2007 328i Sports Wagon with Premium Package, Premium Sound and Xenon headlights in Dark Green Metallic, with manual transmission, terra leather and dark burlwood trim. I offered $800 over European Delivery (ED) Invoice, which the dealer was glad to accept. My offer was for $36,050 with the options mentioned above, which includes the destination charge and "training fee." I was not going to capitalize the bank fee or sales taxes, which are $625 and 6.5%, respectively, in my area.
 
When it came to the finance guy, though, I offered to "buy down" the lease with 7-times the security deposit to get the ultra-low Money Factor of .00061, and they thought I was insane. They wouldn't even do the "special lease" MF of .0011 mentioned in the post I am replying to.
 
The "rack rate" MF on this model from BMW Finance on a 36-month lease at 15K miles/yr. is .00225 with a 60% Residual Value ont the ED MSRP of $38,305. With the "buy down" of 7 times the base security deposit, they agreed to a MF of .00176. All said, the deal was at approximately $498 a month. I think this included sales tax, but I am not sure because I wasn't able to leave the dealership with the quote.
 
I walked out of the dealership and was disappointed that I couldn't get the .00061 MF, so I am looking to work with a dealer that can do ED and perhaps get a better lease MF than what I was offered today.
 
PLEASE CONTACT ME or post here if you know any dealers that can do this European Delivery at a better rate. I would really appreciate any help or feedback!

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