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Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated by glynis0916
Jan 15, 2007 (10:28 am)
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I just negotiated my first lease on a 328i coupe, auto. trans. w/ premium and sports packages and navigation. I'd appreciate any input as to whether you think I got a decent deal:
 
MSRP $43995/Invoice 40450
Negotiated $42588
Bank (acq.) fee $625
BPA fee $28
 
Cap Cost 43241
Cap Reduction (trade in) 2416
Adjusted Cap Cost 40824
 
RV 60%
MF .00140
Tax 8.25%
 
Total monthly payment = 535 including tax.
 
I received $3500 for my trade-in which was actually more than I expected, considering that I heard BMW typically ripped people off with trade-ins. To me this made up for the mediocre deal they gave me off the MSRP of the car. The rest of the trade-in money covered license tax registration and first month's payment, so I paid nothing in cash out the door. For me this also validated the deal.
 
A few questions:
 
1. Is it typical to capitalize the acquisition fee instead of paying cash?
 
2. I always thought a lease requires a deposit (I didn't have to pay one)--is this correct?
 
3. Did I get ripped off on the MF? I couldn't get them to lower it to .00125 or .00130 even though I had good credit.
 
Thanks for any input.
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Got a leasing quote for a new 328i BMW in Socal by petexiao
Jan 15, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Hi all,
I just got this today for a base model 328i silver with only
auto transmission on it. Dealer told me the profit for them
is around 600.
  
MSRP: 34845
Cash saleprice: 33845
Acquision Fee: 825 (Banking fee, with BMWFS)
Total CAP cost: 34670
  
DMV fee: 285
  
MF: 0.0021
Res: %61 (15000mile/year)
  
Monthly base: 490.07
Tax: 37,98 (0.0775)
Monthly Payment: 528.05
  
Down payment: 0
Driveoff: 1420.29
  
Is that a reasonable price?
Please suggest, thanks.
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Re: Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated [glynis0916] by cchaman
Jan 15, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: glynis0916 (Jan 15, 2007 10:28 am)

1. Pay the acq. fee upfront. Capitalizing it will increase the money factor
 
2. You trade-in is kinda covering that
 
3. Not really, but you can reduce it. Ask the dealer instead of reducing the Cap cost with the trade-in...if he can apply the money towards additinal security deposits. For exach additional one you bring your MF down by 7 bps (basis points). Also tell him the BMW MF for lease specials in 0.0011 -- with additonal deposits you should be able to brink this down to 0.00061.
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Re: Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated [glynis0916] by glynis0916
Jan 15, 2007 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: glynis0916 (Jan 15, 2007 10:28 am)

Forgot to mention lease term is 36 months 12K miles/yr
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Re: Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated [cchaman] by glynis0916
Jan 15, 2007 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: cchaman (Jan 15, 2007 11:16 am)

thanks for the reply...this is already a done deal, but if that was my only mistake then i'm ok with it.
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Re: Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated [cchaman] by petexiao
Jan 15, 2007 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: cchaman (Jan 15, 2007 11:16 am)

Sorry if I am wrong. Base point is .0001 right?
So each additional deposit will bring MF down by 0.7 base
point? 0.0011 - 7*0.00007 (7*0.7 bps) = 0.00061
 
Can this reduction rate be applied to 328i Sedan also?
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Re: Negotiated my first lease--comments appreciated [glynis0916] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 15, 2007 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: glynis0916 (Jan 15, 2007 10:28 am)

1) Capitalizing the acq.fee seems to run about 50/50.. I always recommend it. It doesn't change the money factor, but you will be paying finance charges on that amount (just like any other amount that is capitalized).
 
2) The initial security deposit can be waived for a bump in the MF of .00015.. In the long run, you lose money by doing this. From the dealer's standpoint, they can make the lease payment lower by taking that same amount and crediting it towards CAP cost reduction. This makes the deal seem better.
 
3) If you got .0014, then you got the base rate w/security deposit waived. The only way to get the .00125 rate is to make a security deposit.
 
Since you had a trade, only you can judge how good your deal is. You got the base rate and acquisition fee (very good), didn't make a security deposit (not so good), got a piddly discount from MSRP (not good), but evidently got much more for your trade-in than you expected (good, very good, or great?).
 
So, it seems you got a very fair deal, assuming your judgement of your trade value is accurate.. You definitely did not get hurt on this transaction.
 
Enjoy your new car!
kyfdx
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Re: Got a leasing quote for a new 328i BMW in Socal [petexiao] by nyccarguy
Jan 15, 2007 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: petexiao (Jan 15, 2007 10:42 am)

They're also marking up the Acq. fee by $200. Base Bank fee (BMWFS) is $625.
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Re: En Route [tcn2k] by bemer
Jan 18, 2007 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: tcn2k (Jan 14, 2007 11:04 pm)

If it is off the production line, it will be about 3 weeks.
From the day of order until arrived was about 6 weeks.
My was ordered in Minneapolis, so it was delivered on the vessel to North Carolina.
I am not sure about so.cali?
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Did I get a decent deal? by berman2921
Jan 18, 2007 (8:23 pm)
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Just picked up a slightly used (4kmi) 335 coupe with auto, premium, sport, cold, metallic for 41,200 before taxes. msrp ws 47,300, invoice 43,500. Did I get a fair deal?

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