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Re: Lease a 2006 or 2007? [newcar45] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 22, 2006 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: newcar45 (Jul 22, 2006 8:12 am)

Unfortunately, your salesperson is probably correct in his estimation...
 
Once the new model comes out, the re-sale of the old model generally drops enough to make leasing problematic.. At that point, car companies generally shift the incentives to dealer cash or consumer rebates, rather than high residuals or low money factors..
 
So, if you are buying, you can wait and get a deal... but, if you are leasing, you just have to watch and grab your lease when everything looks to be best... waiting for lower prices is often offset by lower residuals..
 
Of course, all this speculation is general in nature, and there are always exceptions...
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Re: What should I expect for lease payments on a 330i? [argen4444] by muchopablito
Jul 22, 2006 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: argen4444 (Jul 19, 2006 7:11 pm)

I paid $39,416 for a 330i sedan, premium package, sports package, electric rear sun visor and destination charge in the Tampa area. I had to order the car (already in production but was able to change a few options (interior trim and leather, for example). The dealership (Reeves) was very professional and easy to work with. Let me take the car on the road and didn't try to direct me to keep turning right on the test drive (although their standard test drive route is a narrow twisty road that really shows off the handling characteristics of the car - but we did pass two police cruisers who just 'happened' to be on the road but avoided a ticket somehow). I think with the 2007 models coming out it was not very hard to get 'Edmunds' pricing but the car will depreciate a bit faster since it is 'last year's' model. Not an issue for me, I plan to drive it for a while.
 
Highly recommend Reeves - this is my second car from the dealership and they do a nice job in the service department, they only sell high-end cars so they do not seem to have a lot of interest in being pushy or in playing a lot of games. I also visited Ferman - they were helpful and professional but neglected to contact me after my visit with a price or with a time to visit and order a car (I left a business card, my cell number and a list of the options I wanted in my car). This was a bit puzzling. I currently drive a Mercedes Benz and I stopped by after leaving the office. They evidently sized me up as someone just looking for a joy ride in the car. I would have thought they would have understood that I actually was in the market for a car. However, I tend to be a bit picky and eliminated the dealership (despite it being a little closer to my neighborhood) because I worry that they may not be very responsive in other areas (such as service).
 
Based upon my experience, I would say that the inventory of 2006 models is dwindling and if you have any unusual needs (I wanted a manual) then you might not get exactly what you want unless you order a 2007. Also, they are adding another model to the lineup (a 3.0 turbo model) that might be interesting if you want a really fast car. The 2006 with 255hp was more than enough for me. I don't know when that one will be on sale - probably when the last of the 2006 lineup is gone I suspect. Not an issue for me - I don't really want a turbo and the 330i is nearly perfect in terms of power and handling. Overall, the entire transaction took about an hour (including the test drive). Not sure if there will be any other issues since I won't get the car until September but if there are I will report them on this forum. Never ordered a car before so I don't know what to expect.
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Re: Need advice on buying new 330i in Orange County / LA [sdso] by brianm4
Jul 23, 2006 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: sdso (Jul 20, 2006 9:47 am)

I just leased a 325ci in San Diego. I shopped every BMW from San Diego to LA, via phone, e-mail or in person.
 
I actually started with Costco.com, got the price then shopped it around. I found out my original dealer (Brect)was marking up the money factor and bank fee, when I told them other dealers had better numbers, they kept the reduced price ($950 over invoice on the convertible, I think just $450 over invoice on the i) and reduced the money factor.
 
I posted the specifics about my purchase in an earlier post if you are interested.
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Please help me decide by kjh78
Jul 23, 2006 (6:09 am)
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Currently, I have an '03 330xi (premium, nav, auto, heated seats, xenon, 37,000 miles) My lease is coming to an end and I was going to buy-out my car. The buyout price is $27,000. If I include extended warranty & maintenance, it brings the total to $31,000 excluding tax etc. PLease advise on the following:
1. Is the extended warranty/maintenance ($4,000)worth it? (I cannot do any maintenance myself)
2. I will have to finance it for 3 more years (8%) What is expected additional costs should I keep it.
3. At $31,000 for a 3 year old car, should I just buy a new '06 A4 w/ same options for $5,000 more? I went to Audi dealer today and will get it $600 below INVOICE if I decide by end of week due to some kind of dealer incentive.
  
I cant decide what to do. I LOVE my car but $31,000 seems like a lot for a 3 yr old car. I know Im not comparing apples to apples, obviously bmw is better (drives better, smoother, looks better etc), but its older and I feel like I should take advantage of the A4 deal. At the same time I dont really know how reliable A4 is. Basically, I want the least amount of problems (reliablity very impt.)HELP ME!
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Re: Please help me decide [kjh78] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 23, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: kjh78 (Jul 23, 2006 6:09 am)

From a strictly financial standpoint, The new Audi A4 would probably be a better deal. Have you looked into leasing a new 3-series? That would probably be a better deal than dropping $31K on a used 330Xi, and you would have 3 more years of free maintenance (something you don't get with the Audi).
 
One other possibility.. There is a very good chance that the price your dealer would pay for your car, if you were turning it in, is much less than your buyout of $27K.. Ask your dealer if they can buy your car, CPO it, add the extended maintenance extension, and sell it back to you for less than the $31K.. They might be able to knock off another $1K-$2K off of that $31K..
 
But, IMO, even that would still be a lot of money for an '03 330Xi.. I'd rather lease a new BMW or Audi...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Please help me decide [kyfdx] by kjh78
Jul 23, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 23, 2006 7:51 am)

Thanks for responding. Ive been going back and forth in my head forever. Actually, the audi does come w/ 4r maintenance&warranty or 50000 miles, but obviously it not comparable to 330xi (even though old). 330xi=v6, audi is 4. I would have to look to purchase a 325xi to be comparable to A4. I will take your suggestion to talk to dealer about making it CPO. For some reason in my head I really want to purchase whatever car I decide on. I guess I would like to have it worth something.
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Re: Lease a 2006 or 2007? [kyfdx] by newcar45
Jul 23, 2006 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 22, 2006 11:42 am)

Thanks for the quick response kyfdx!
 
Sorry to response to a quick answer with another quick question, but a colleague told me that someone in my position would be better suited to finance the car (even though it would require higher monthly payments) and keep it for a minimum of 3-years.
 
If, after 3-years, I decide to sell it (even though it's not fully paid off), I can sell the car and have the new buyer pay off the remainder or just simply continue making the monthly payments. Either way, it'll be cheaper than leasing it.
 
It sounded like a pretty crazy idea at first, but then it began to make a little sense. Everyone knows leasing a car is the most expensive method of purchasing a car. Actually, you're not even purchasing it, just renting it.
 
Anyways, sorry about asking so immediately before doing some more research on my own, but it's just been on my mind.
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Re: Buying a 330i -- BMWFS financing rates? [boxcar1971] by jjdow
Jul 23, 2006 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: boxcar1971 (Jul 18, 2006 9:19 pm)

go read my previous post within the last 20 or so.
 
thats the one problem with this forum.... if people would read back 50 posts or so, the sames questions you are asking have been asked and answered in the last 2-4 weeks.
 
Overall, very good info though and helped me quite a bit !!
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Re: Lease a 2006 or 2007? [newcar45] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 23, 2006 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: newcar45 (Jul 23, 2006 4:10 pm)

Depending on the mileage you drive, buying a car can certainly be cheaper than leasing it... Especially for a BMW... If you drive less than 12,500 miles/yr., then you can keep the car for four years, all under warranty and included maintenance.. All you pay for is tires, if needed.
 
BMW does offer pretty good lease deals, generally, so that makes the decision a little harder..
 
The only quibble I have with your plan.. When you sell your car, the loan must be paid off. As the car is collateral for the loan, you can't just keep paying on the loan after the car has been sold. Also, there is no guarantee that the car will sell for more than the amount that you owe on it. That is a problem that you don't encounter at the end of a lease.
 
Whether you buy or lease, you still end up paying for the use of the car...The longer you keep it, and the more mileage you drive, the more it costs.. the two are not as different as they seem.. Leases can be good deals, but they aren't for everyone.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Lease or Buy? Please help kyfdx or carman by saddletramp
Jul 23, 2006 (6:14 pm)
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Great site with the best info.
 
We are expecting our first child this Fall and need to get into a new vehicle. I have narrowed my search to a BMW 330i.
 
My question is to Lease or Buy? I have a friend who is a GM at a BMW dealer so I know I will get the best deal, invoice for buy and best MF/residual for a lease.
 
We are trading in a 2002 F-150 with 12K equity. Not sure if it makes more sense to lease and invest/bank the equity or buy with a big down payment.
 
Also am starting to see used 330i's and CPO models coming on the market. Just need some advice for what makes the most sense for the BMW. Thank you for your help!

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