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Re: Special Order Time? [getwired] by ckm1515
Apr 10, 2006 (1:37 am)
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Replying to: getwired (Apr 09, 2006 7:26 pm)

Total elapsed time, from purchase order to pick up, was 7 weeks. Longest wait was at the dock and across the atlantic.
 
Residuals are non negotiable and set forth by BMWFS. The money factor is 'negotiable' in so much as a dealer may mark it up by .0004. Assuming they did that, then one can negotiate for the buy rate factor. If one was to have ordered a 06 330xi in Feb and took delivery in April, you should request the current rate factor of .00195.
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Re: Special Order Time? [getwired] by bdr127
Apr 10, 2006 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: getwired (Apr 09, 2006 7:26 pm)

Anyone can share with me their experience with ordering a "special order" 330i? How long did it take?
  
Can you "lock in" residuals and money factors from the time you order the vehyicle?

 
It usually takes, on average, around 5 weeks to go from ordering to coming in at the port. Then to get to your dealership, the time varies based on location.
 
If you do a credit app and submit your info/price to BMWFS, then you can lock in the current rates for 60 days.
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Re: Is this a decent deal? [jaxdave] by bdr127
Apr 10, 2006 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: jaxdave (Apr 09, 2006 9:43 am)

Thanks for all the info. I have not really considered the 330i because one of the options that I really want is the IDrive/Nav. Before anyone jumps all over me about that, Yes I have played with it extensively and I am one of the rare people who actually likes it.
 
I wish more people were like you and actually tried it out.... Like you said, it's really pretty straight-forward, but somehow the auto media still has the idea that the current iDrive is like the 2002 7-Series. Good for you for actually "test driving" iDrive...
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BMW 330i Money Factor?? by jzcarr25
Apr 10, 2006 (10:46 am)
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OK...where do people live that get the .00195 MF rates? I have tried 3 dealerships, 2 in NC and one in DC and all 3 have quoted me .00250. None of them seem willing to negotiate the rate either? Is this something that they wont neg on until they feel the deal is final, or does it require that you are a return BMW customer, etc?? It seems like a lot of people on this forum are getting the .00195 with little hassle. Im not having much luck. Has anyone else run into this?
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Re: BMW 330i Money Factor?? [jzcarr25] by blueguydotcom
Apr 10, 2006 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: jzcarr25 (Apr 10, 2006 10:46 am)

Have you explained to the dealer that you know the buy rate and you're willing to let them have a point or two profit on it?
 
Honesty works best in this situation. My dealership tried a 4 point bump. I balked and explained why. They came back to earth. also let them know as it's a lease, you'll be back in 3 years time. A return customer is gonna be more profitable in the long run...
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Re: BMW 330i Money Factor?? [blueguydotcom] by jzcarr25
Apr 10, 2006 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Apr 10, 2006 11:03 am)

Ive told each one, your buy rate is .00195 and they even confirm that (in a subtle way). The problem is I have no leverage, if all the dealers I am working with give a .00250 rate then I cant go back to them with an offer to beat. So far the price negotiations have been fairly easy, but they are really fighting me on the MF. Interestingly, I thought the latter would have been easier. .00250 is a dramatic mark-up and makes a serious difference in the monthly payment. Im to the point now where I will use the dealer willing to go with .00195 and pay to ship the car.
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Re: Is this a decent deal? [skobola] by jaxdave
Apr 10, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: skobola (Apr 09, 2006 2:53 pm)

Thanks for the additional info. I am actually getting pretty close to your NY number right now. I got a call back from my local dealer this morning (the one who told me to take the other deal) and they have now beaten the best offer by a few hundred bucks. So I am about $1200 over invoice at this point. To be honest, I had never thought of going out of state to order. I had planned to do the Spartanburg delivery anyway because I think it would be a lot of fun. What were your costs to register the car back in FL again from out of state? I seem to remember it being pretty expensive when I first moved down here 10 years ago. There was some kind of extra tax or something as I recall.
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Re: BMW 330i Money Factor?? [jzcarr25] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 10, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: jzcarr25 (Apr 10, 2006 11:26 am)

The .0025 rate is without a security deposit.. They are marking it up the maximum.. If you made a deposit, the maximum rate would drop to .00235...
 
I'd be upfront with them... and tell them you won't lease, except at the base rate..
 
NC? Spartanburg is close.. you can do PCD, and it won't matter where you buy it from..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Money factors on a 24 month lease in Illinois by dogsambam
Apr 10, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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My lease on my 2004 325i is up in 3 weeks. I went to BMW to get a quote on a 2006 equipped the exact same way as my car is now. The sticker is basically the same as my 2004, as is the discount on the car which I received in 2004. The lease is almost $200 more than my car was in 2004. This makes no sense, and when asked about it, the dealer was very evasive. What are the money factors on a 24 month lease with 12000 miles a year and the depreciation percentage? Looking at a 325i, Silver with a sticker around 36,500. They are also going to use my car for a tax savings becasue its trade in value is the same as the buyout. I am ready to walk to a different brand. Please help. $200 more a month sounds rather steep, and in all my years of leasing cars, I have never seen a lease go up so much, even on a new body style.
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Re: BMW 330i Money Factor?? [kyfdx] by jzcarr25
Apr 10, 2006 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 10, 2006 11:54 am)

Thanks kyfdx..What is PCD?? Is that like free shipping to the plant in Spartanburg? Its only 2 hrs away from me. I have been pretty blunt with these guys and I have gotten the same story from 3 separate dealerships in 2 states. Does anyone have names of dealerships where they got the .00195 rate?

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