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Re: Request for Updated Lease Specs [raln48] by ak432
Apr 01, 2006 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: raln48 (Apr 01, 2006 9:05 am)

Signed with these numbers today on 330i spt/auto/sat/leather.
 
invoice (even lower #s than edmunds') + 1000 (this could have been negotiated further- I would estimate by another 300-500)
 
.00195
3 yr/45K
Base money factor .00195
62% resid. These are 4/1/06 new updated numbers.
 
Good luck.
ak
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Re: Request for Updated Lease Specs [ak432] by raln48
Apr 01, 2006 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: ak432 (Apr 01, 2006 4:16 pm)

Thanks for your reply.
My sense is that the 330xi will have a different money factor.
I'm still hoping for confirmation on this from kyfdx.
 
Thanks again.
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Re: Help with pricing 2004 325ci [omrster] by irvine_avalon
Apr 03, 2006 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: omrster (Mar 31, 2006 7:05 pm)

Check this out.
www.centurywestbmw.com
 
I just bought a CPO 2005 325ci last Fri. w/ 9800 miles on it(1 yr lease return) for $30850 before tax and fees. Your price is definitely too high. You can check many other BMW dealerships in LA. I think for 2004 325ci CPO the price is around $28000 and $30000.
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by lahermano
Apr 03, 2006 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Mar 29, 2006 8:15 pm)

This week-end i had seen this car
http://www.bmwpeabody.com/sales/newcars/car.php?id=3393
at the dealer. Exactly the combination that i wanted.
 
1. First look of the car itself turned me off. Looked old, No sticker on the car. 378 miles on it, it was dirty interior and exterior as well.
2. They wanted to push me buy the car. But i didnot even feel like talking any numbers and walked out from there.
3. Got the exact invoice date 11/5/2005 on demanding. This car was sitting outside in the lot all the while and used as a loaner car.
 
Another dealer close to home, looked to find the similar car for me and itseems he found and told me that it is coming from germany to a dealer in NJ and he said he is going to get it for me this thursday.
 
I just want to make sure that he is not getting this same old car, detailed very well as new. Hope not!. Though i can demand the invoice date ? and check the mileage as well. Can they manipulate any of these ? because other dealers couldn't find this combo anywhere and suggested me to order and wondering how this guy could get me one. If it was new it must have 0 miles definetly right.
 
Well, I am getting crazy searching and several thoughts coming to my mind.
 
I told the dealer, i need to see the car then only anything to be talked. I am just wondering if i can negotiatiate the same good deal that i got before, because the dealer is at a good advantage as he has my car and knows my desperation.
 
I have the following things bothering me how to handle.
 
1. Should i just be upfront and tell about my good deal or ask him to offer the best he can and then tell my deal.
 
2. What are the financing rates for BMW now ? i am getting around 7.5 % from my bank, The dealer keeps asking me what is the best i got that he need to match. Should i tell him openly.
 
3. The CAR specs are
   325XI + gray Leather + metallic + sat prep + heated seats = $37250
 
   The best deal non-leather i got was $33140 + 249 Doc + 5% tax + $85 reg
 
How can i negotiate the same deal with + leather $1450
 
The negotiation begins on friday.
 
All responses are greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks for sharing, yaa all are of great help
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by mattr82
Apr 03, 2006 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Apr 03, 2006 5:16 pm)

Hey Lahermano,
Sorry the car did not turn out to be what you were looking for. As far as another dealer giving you the exact same car, seems unlikely. The only way you could probably be certain however is through the VIN #. It is totally illegal to roll back mileage as I am sure you know. I doubt they would risk it on a new car. I would never purchase a loaner car, most are never properly broken in, people treat them like garbage, and I doubt that the car was getting filled up with premium gas. Again, I recommend doing everything through e-mail. Just send out a mass e-mail to dealers in Mass/CT/NJ, asking if they have something around the specs you are looking for, but you are flexible, and will purchase immediately given the right price. I would also forward the quote you received from the dealer on your non-leather vehicle to this dealer/others and see if they can match it accordingly. I would try to create the sense that you don't need to buy the car this second and you are flexible on the color/options, even though you are not. The more information a dealer knows, the more they will use it against you. Also, why not contact the original dealer offering you the good deal on the leatherette car and see if he can get you this car?
 
I am not sure on financing the car, I would imagine you should get the rates from various credit unions. 7.5% seems quite high, I don't know how good your credit is.
 
Matt
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [mattr82] by lahermano
Apr 04, 2006 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: mattr82 (Apr 03, 2006 6:50 pm)

Matt,
Thanks for the reply.
 
Well, I guess i will maintain my poise at the dealer.
Though needed immediately I would wait for the right car and right price.
 
The reason i didnot go with the original dealer who gave me good deal is that he wanted me to sign the papers with out seeing the car. I am glad i didn't and demanded to see the car (He probable found the same loaner car that i saw). He was sort of pissed off with me because he wanted me to buy before March 31st. Dosen't matter, he wants to sell no matter what and any day. I can call him again and see too. But i will wait and see this week.
 
Thanks again for the responses.
I am sure this is all worth it to get a Bimmer
 
Can you tell me about the ordering experience, I guess you did.
1. The delivery date is is accurate ? 6-8 weeks ? or can it slip by ?
2. Do you get the same deal/negotiating power for ordering as opposed to buying one available in the lot ?
 
As far as the credit goes, I was not monitoring it for few years and i am at 650+ or so. Though i don't owe any one a single penny. I looked at the credit report and notice that this low score is a result of an unresolved medical bill that was supposed to be paid by med insurance, but they treated that as an out of network and that resulted in collection for $300. I am in the process of resolving it but may take few months. It was only reported in Experian. What bureau does BMW look at for score (all 3) ?
 
It is so pathetic in America, that everything resolves around Credit history. Though a person like me can pay this huge amount as cash still i may not be of good credit. Cancel unowed/unused credit cards could also lower your credit score and i commited that mistake and got even less score. I learnt my lesson and will keep an eye on credit history religeously.
At the same time i don't want to pay cash, because cash in hand is always good and could be used better.
 
Thanks again
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by mattr82
Apr 04, 2006 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Apr 04, 2006 7:15 am)

I am not too sure about the credit bureau information, I am sure your dealer can provide you that information. I ordered my car on Feb 18th. It was delivered to the dealer March 29th. Basically you pick out the color/options and get everything in writting. You give them a 1k non-refundable deposit, and they submit the vehicle to the factory. This is detailed directs on the tracking, and also a great site for information. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=828
 
I agree with you, I would never purchase a vehicle without seeing it and driving it first. They have some nerve trying to pass off a loaner vehicle w/ 300+ miles on it as a "new car." I would say the minimum discount on a car like this I would want is 2k UNDER invoice. Don't be pressured, they have to sell the cars, you dont have to buy them, so don't ever forgot this.
 
The one dealer I actually spoke price with in person, initially was saying he could cut me a better deal on a car on the lot. In the end, after 2 hours of wasting my time, it ended up being the exact same price as a car to be ordered. If you are trying to get the most aggressive deal possible, a car on the lot at the end of any given month will probably give you a bit more negotiating power. I thought my $488 over invoice was fair to both parties, and decided that it was not worth my time to fight any more.
 
Matt
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [mattr82] by lahermano
Apr 04, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: mattr82 (Apr 04, 2006 12:34 pm)

Thanks Matt.
 
Few more :
 
1. What are these E?? numbers ? i see they are most often referred. I am still learning more about Bimmer's
2. Did you do the financing from BMW ? or your own or cash ? What are the rates that you got, if financed ?
 
Thanks a bunch
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by mattr82
Apr 04, 2006 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Apr 04, 2006 3:39 pm)

Exx is just the "code name" for the car. So the 99-05 3 series was the E46. The 06 coupe and m3 still share the same body style, so they would still be considered E46 too. Now the 06+ will be known as the E90. E30 (1983 - 1991), E36 (1991 - 1999)
 
I did not finance the car, just cash, as New Jersey was not being offered the 2.9% financing rate that others were given.
#6325 of 8956
2003 M3 vs. 2006 330I by jlf1
Apr 05, 2006 (10:14 am)
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Trying to make a decision between a 2003 M3 with 12k miles or a new 330I. M3 $42K and the 330I $43k. Thanks.

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