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2006 325i lease off on www.bmwusa.com by pluto168
Mar 31, 2006 (1:27 pm)
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Is this a good deal from www.bmwusa.com;
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/2006325iSedan/Programs.htm?PanelID=4&duration=3- 6
 
  
 2006 BMW 325i Sedan Lease Offer (with auto transmission)
  
 $389/month for 36 months
  
 $389 First month's payment
 $2,500 Down payment
 $400 Security deposit
 $3,289 Cash due at signing
 10000 miles per year
 
thanks
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Help with pricing 2004 325ci by omrster
Mar 31, 2006 (6:05 pm)
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Looking for help dealing on a 325ci. Car is 2004 325ci with 13,800 miles on it, white with black top in MD. Was an executive lease now being sold CPO by the dealer. Car has:
Premium pkg
Sports Pkg
Cold weather Pkg
Leather seats
Xenon headlights
HK audio
Park dist control
Read air bags
Brushed aluminum interior
Mfg warranty ends in 2 yrs
 
Car offered at $39,000.
 
Price lower than Edmunds lists.
 
How much lower might the dlr go with this?
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A few lease questions by 330blast
Mar 31, 2006 (10:48 pm)
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Hi there,
 
I have a few lease questions:
1. How to you determine/negotiate the selling price on a lease? Pretty much the same as you buy a car?
2. If there is incentive from BMW (like we have seen in the last couple years of E46 model), does it apply to lease as well or just for purchasing?
3. Is MSD an uncommon practice for most dealers?
4. Is there any limitation on MSD, such as how low you can knock down the MF?
 
Thanks.
#6314 of 10327
Re: A few lease questions [330blast] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 01, 2006 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: 330blast (Mar 31, 2006 10:48 pm)

1) No different from a purchase
 
2) It can vary... sometimes the lease has a different set of incentives, but in the past.. since the incentive is to the dealer, not the consumer, it applies equally.. Ergo, you have to negotiate it into your selling price.
 
3) The program wasn't very good for the last couple of years.. it has recently been enhanced. Depending on the dealer, they may not have much experience with it.
 
4) 7 extra deposits, with a reduction of .00007 for each one, resulting in a total reduction of .00049 for each one..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Request for Updated Lease Specs by raln48
Apr 01, 2006 (8:05 am)
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kyfdx - if you're available to reply, I could use your help again. The new 330xi that I ordered about 6 weeks ago will be arriving at the dealership for delivery this week.
I would like to confirm whether or not there have been any changes in the BMWFS lease specs that could influence my deal at final closing.
Here's what was negotiated with the dealer 6 weeks ago:
 
3yr/45K lease
Residual 61%
Base money factor .00225
$625 acquisition fee
 
Has any of the above changed one way or the other?
 
Thanks again for all of your help.
raln48
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Re: Request for Updated Lease Specs [raln48] by ak432
Apr 01, 2006 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: raln48 (Apr 01, 2006 8:05 am)

Signed with these numbers today on 330i spt/auto/sat/leather.
 
invoice (even lower #s than edmunds') + 1000 (this could have been negotiated further- I would estimate by another 300-500)
 
.00195
3 yr/45K
Base money factor .00195
62% resid. These are 4/1/06 new updated numbers.
 
Good luck.
ak
#6317 of 10327
Re: Request for Updated Lease Specs [ak432] by raln48
Apr 01, 2006 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: ak432 (Apr 01, 2006 3:16 pm)

Thanks for your reply.
My sense is that the 330xi will have a different money factor.
I'm still hoping for confirmation on this from kyfdx.
 
Thanks again.
#6318 of 10327
Re: Help with pricing 2004 325ci [omrster] by irvine_avalon
Apr 03, 2006 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: omrster (Mar 31, 2006 6:05 pm)

Check this out.
www.centurywestbmw.com
 
I just bought a CPO 2005 325ci last Fri. w/ 9800 miles on it(1 yr lease return) for $30850 before tax and fees. Your price is definitely too high. You can check many other BMW dealerships in LA. I think for 2004 325ci CPO the price is around $28000 and $30000.
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Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by lahermano
Apr 03, 2006 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Mar 29, 2006 7:15 pm)

This week-end i had seen this car
http://www.bmwpeabody.com/sales/newcars/car.php?id=3393
at the dealer. Exactly the combination that i wanted.
 
1. First look of the car itself turned me off. Looked old, No sticker on the car. 378 miles on it, it was dirty interior and exterior as well.
2. They wanted to push me buy the car. But i didnot even feel like talking any numbers and walked out from there.
3. Got the exact invoice date 11/5/2005 on demanding. This car was sitting outside in the lot all the while and used as a loaner car.
 
Another dealer close to home, looked to find the similar car for me and itseems he found and told me that it is coming from germany to a dealer in NJ and he said he is going to get it for me this thursday.
 
I just want to make sure that he is not getting this same old car, detailed very well as new. Hope not!. Though i can demand the invoice date ? and check the mileage as well. Can they manipulate any of these ? because other dealers couldn't find this combo anywhere and suggested me to order and wondering how this guy could get me one. If it was new it must have 0 miles definetly right.
 
Well, I am getting crazy searching and several thoughts coming to my mind.
 
I told the dealer, i need to see the car then only anything to be talked. I am just wondering if i can negotiatiate the same good deal that i got before, because the dealer is at a good advantage as he has my car and knows my desperation.
 
I have the following things bothering me how to handle.
 
1. Should i just be upfront and tell about my good deal or ask him to offer the best he can and then tell my deal.
 
2. What are the financing rates for BMW now ? i am getting around 7.5 % from my bank, The dealer keeps asking me what is the best i got that he need to match. Should i tell him openly.
 
3. The CAR specs are
   325XI + gray Leather + metallic + sat prep + heated seats = $37250
 
   The best deal non-leather i got was $33140 + 249 Doc + 5% tax + $85 reg
 
How can i negotiate the same deal with + leather $1450
 
The negotiation begins on friday.
 
All responses are greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks for sharing, yaa all are of great help
#6320 of 10327
Re: what should i pay for this ? 325XIA [lahermano] by mattr82
Apr 03, 2006 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: lahermano (Apr 03, 2006 4:16 pm)

Hey Lahermano,
Sorry the car did not turn out to be what you were looking for. As far as another dealer giving you the exact same car, seems unlikely. The only way you could probably be certain however is through the VIN #. It is totally illegal to roll back mileage as I am sure you know. I doubt they would risk it on a new car. I would never purchase a loaner car, most are never properly broken in, people treat them like garbage, and I doubt that the car was getting filled up with premium gas. Again, I recommend doing everything through e-mail. Just send out a mass e-mail to dealers in Mass/CT/NJ, asking if they have something around the specs you are looking for, but you are flexible, and will purchase immediately given the right price. I would also forward the quote you received from the dealer on your non-leather vehicle to this dealer/others and see if they can match it accordingly. I would try to create the sense that you don't need to buy the car this second and you are flexible on the color/options, even though you are not. The more information a dealer knows, the more they will use it against you. Also, why not contact the original dealer offering you the good deal on the leatherette car and see if he can get you this car?
 
I am not sure on financing the car, I would imagine you should get the rates from various credit unions. 7.5% seems quite high, I don't know how good your credit is.
 
Matt

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