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Re: Need verification on information on '06 330i lease [clickity] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 23, 2006 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: clickity (Feb 23, 2006 5:37 pm)

The 330i leases are indeed better than the 325i..
 
I'm not too sure on his invoice numbers, though... It seems the spread should be more than $3500 on a car that is optioned up that much.. Though, your selling price is still good..
 
Any idea what your tax rate is? Or, how much of the $559/mo. is tax? Also.. a breakdown of the $1841 drive-off? $559 1st pymt, $625 acq.fee.. That leaves about $650 unaccounted for..
 
Using the base rates, and the MSRP and selling price you provided, I get $501/mo.+ tax..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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325i lease by ldock25
Feb 23, 2006 (7:28 pm)
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Just got a quote from my dealer:
 
325i
Black/Black
Manual
Heated seats
24 month/20,000 mile
MSRP: 32170.00
Negotiated Price: $30,808.97
Residual 77%
Money factor .00265
Total cap cost: $825.00
Total cap reduction: $800.00 ?????
Total Initial fees $217.50
NY Tax: 909.96
1 month 399.98
Total out of pocket $2327.44
 
Is this truly a fair deal? Any feedback would be great.
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Re: Lead time for ED? [wco81] by calif65gm
Feb 23, 2006 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: wco81 (Feb 23, 2006 9:55 am)

I'd recommend that you join bimmerfest.com and post this question in the ED forum. There's a whole section on ED.
 
Early Sept. for a 2007 will be tough because they build the cars 30-days before pick-up, so your car would be build in early Aug.
 
No, if you drop off in Paris, they truck it to the port. Italy drop-offs are driven back to Munich for shipping.
 
No idea on the gas and toll, but the car basically gets about between 22-25 mpg (about 35-40km/gal). So figure out the distance from Munich to Paris and any stops in between.
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Re: Lead time for ED? [calif65gm] by wco81
Feb 23, 2006 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: calif65gm (Feb 23, 2006 8:08 pm)

Yeah I did post at bimmerfest. They said typically 6 weeks but maybe double or more in the summer.
 
Actually even if I did it in July (which would be better than Sept), that is near the end of the model year so you would think there would be more deals. Of course no deal in the US will be as good as an ED deal, unless maybe a dealer wants to take just $500 over ED invoice.
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Re: 325i lease [ldock25] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 25, 2006 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: ldock25 (Feb 23, 2006 7:28 pm)

Not a bad deal.. There isn't much spread between invoice and MSRP at this price level..
 
A few points
 
1) You are getting the base money factor... with the .00015 bump for security deposit waiver.. This is good.
 
2) The additional cap cost ($825) is the acquisition fee.. the base fee is $625. The dealer is marking up the fee for extra profit
 
3) $800 cap reduction? Money you are paying upfront to reduce the payment. I'm guessing that either you asked for "under $400"... or that they think that will make the payment easier to swallow..
 
If I were leasing the car at that selling price, I'd structure it this way.
 
$625 acq.fee + $910 NY tax would be added to the cap cost.. I'd make no cap cost reduction, but I would make a security deposit to bring the money factor down to .0025
 
$30,809 Selling price
$32,344 Cap cost (selling price + $625 +$910)
MF .0025
24mo/20K lease
Payment = $459/mo...including tax
 
Due at signing: 1st payment ($459), security deposit ($500), Initial fees ($218). TOTAL = $1177
Also, you'll get the $500 back at lease end..
 
It isn't much of a difference.... But, by not paying all of those costs upfront, it gives a clearer picture of the actual monthly expense of the lease..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: 325i lease [kyfdx] by ldock25
Feb 25, 2006 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 25, 2006 5:44 am)

Thanks a million. That makes things a lot clearer.
 
Mike
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how about this lease? by jmartin1
Feb 25, 2006 (9:52 am)
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330i
metallic paint
sport
cold
price $38145 (39895 msrp)
residual 62%
MF .00215
36 mo/15k yearly
usual fees (acquis 625, title 145, taxes built into lease)
 
Thoughts? Thanks!

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