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Re: Lease Deal Assesment [pavan] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 18, 2006 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: pavan (Jan 18, 2006 8:25 am)

What is the term of the lease and the mileage allowance? Also, does the payment include sales tax? If so, what is the tax rate?
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Lease Deal Assesment [kyfdx] by pavan
Jan 18, 2006 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 18, 2006 8:32 am)

Oops - forgot to mention - 36 Mo/15k/yr
 
Sales Tax is 7.5% (included in the payment)
 
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Incidental fees on lease by salraf
Jan 18, 2006 (12:44 pm)
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I have been researching for a 325 convertible and am still looking for a good deal. I have been in contact with a few dealers and when all is said and done, nearly all talk about $2000 down.
When questioned they say that it includes first months payment plus things such as $850 bank fee and $450 dealer fee.
 
Are these negotiable and what are fair negotiated rates for these things?
 
What should I be expected as far as money up front.
 
Thanks
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Re: Lease Deal Assesment [pavan] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 18, 2006 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: pavan (Jan 18, 2006 8:25 am)

The base money factor for the 325xi is .0025... I assume the $2411 upfront is $564 payment, $600 security deposit, $625 acquistion fee... That still leaves another $600 for miscellaneous fees and title/licensing which seems a little high..
 
If they are only giving you a $1000 discount, then it looks like they are using the base money factor.. If they were marking it up to .0029, the payment would be even higher...
 
I would want it to look like this:
 
$37720 MSRP
$36220 selling price ($1500 off)
$36845 Cap cost (selling price + $625 acq.fee)
Money factor .0025
3yr/45K residual 61%
Payment = $534/mo.+tax..
Due at signing: 1st payment, security deposit, title/license fees.. Total: about $1400-$1500
 
I'm not sure how they figure tax in your state, but if they just apply it to the monthly payment, then the total payment would be around $574/mo.. As you can see, this is not far off of your numbers.. Most of the differences can be attributed to the $500 lower selling price that I assumed in my example..
 
As you can also see.. the lease deals on the 325xi are not all that great right now..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Incidental fees on lease [salraf] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 18, 2006 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: salraf (Jan 18, 2006 12:44 pm)

I leased a 3-series convertible just a couple of months ago...
 
My fees:
Acquisition fee: $625.. AKA: bank fee.. BMWFS (the leasing company) charges this fee on every lease, as do most leasing companies.. I had them add this to my cap cost, which rolls it into the monthly payment.. BMWFS allows the dealer to mark-up this fee for extra profit.. The maximum allowed is $825.
 
Title/license fee: $114.. This covered title, plates, registration, state leasing permit, etc, etc.. I didn't even ask for a breakdown of it..
 
Security deposit: To get the lowest rate, you have to make a security deposit, that is rounded up to the next $50 increment over your payment..
 
The lease on my car is $529/mo.. My total due at signing was $1194..
$529 1st pymt
$550 security deposit
$114 Title/license fees
 
That's it... The acquisition fee was rolled into the lease payment.. no dealer fees, no document fees, nothing else..
 
Hope this helps..
kyfdx
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DON'T get Extended Warranty or Tire/Wheel warranty by sr4b1
Jan 18, 2006 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: mwhitt (Jan 09, 2006 7:59 pm)

Geico has mechanical break down insurance coverage. It has a straight $250 deductible. Only for new cars. After the 4/50 warranty runs out, you can do mechanical repairs and only pay $250 per repair total. So it protects against any big repair bills.
 
For wheels/tires, they tried to sell me on a 5 yr warranty that would protect tires on a pro-rated basis if they got damaged by road hazards. It's not worth it.
 
To protect your wheels, get full coverage. Most insurance companies cover wheels in their full coverage.
 
To protect your tires, buy from Costco. They give free road hazard protection. Or you can buy it from an online dealer like tirerack.com
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Re: DON'T get Extended Warranty or Tire/Wheel warranty [sr4b1] by sr4b1
Jan 18, 2006 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: sr4b1 (Jan 18, 2006 7:44 pm)

Also, Geico's coverage is only $70 per year. up to 7/100 just like the extended warranty. I don't know if other companies have the same thing, but for me, it was a big savings over the bmw warranty.
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Re: Incidental fees on lease [kyfdx] by salraf
Jan 18, 2006 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 18, 2006 7:25 pm)

hey ky..
 
you got a great deal it seems, especially since most of my quotes have been for ~$650-700..
You must have gotten a manual and leatherette right?
 
Also, mind telling me how much above invoice you paid?
 
Thanks
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Re: Incidental fees on lease [kyfdx] by dl7265
Jan 18, 2006 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 18, 2006 7:25 pm)

WOW did you sell your 03 Sport ?
 
DL
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Re: Incidental fees on lease [salraf] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 19, 2006 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: salraf (Jan 18, 2006 9:21 pm)

I bought an '05 330Cic.. They were running great lease deals through the end of November, and they had a $2000 dealer incentive... Not a stripper... almost everything is standard on the 330.. Also have xenons, Bluetooth/BMW assist.. metallic paint, etc... NO sport package, though..
 
It was the last '05 on the lot.... I paid right at invoice... but, the dealer got the $2K incentive, so it wasn't a "bottom dollar" deal... In my experience, they won't let convertibles go for "500 over invoice". I did get the base money factor (.00075), and the residual for 3yr/45K was 61%... the same as it is for the '06 model.
 
MSRP of just over $49K... and the lease payment was $499/mo. plus tax..
 
Payments between $650-$700 seem about right on an '06 convertible..
 
regards,
kyfdx

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